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Start Date: 18-Jan-1972 10:17 AM

End Date: 18-Jan-1972 11:27 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Woods, Rose Mary[Unknown person(s)]White House operatorSafire, William L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:42:46

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:50:45

650a.mp3

650b.mp3

650c.mp3

650d.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Rose Mary Woods, unknown person(s), White House operator, and William L. Safire met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:17 am to 11:27 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 650-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 650-6

Date: January 18, 1972
Time: 10:17 am - 11:27 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

     Colson's staff responsibilities
          -Forthcoming campaign
                -Edward M. Kennedy

Rose Mary Woods entered at 10:17 am.

     Dictation of memorandum to John B. Connally
          -Copies
                -William P. Rogers, National Security Council [NSC]
          -Connally's January 15, 1972 memorandum
          -Designation of Treasury Department to head US delegation in Paris
          -Chile
                -Loan
                      -Renegotiation
                           -The President’s position on issue
                                 -Chilean government’s attitude
                                 -Reciprocity
          -Distribution of memorandum
                -Connally
                      -Copy of incoming correspondence
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


                          -Notes
                -Rogers
                -NSC

Woods left at 10:23 am.

     Democrats' attack on the President
         -News summary
         -Kennedy
         -Hubert H. Humphrey
         -Strategy on response
               -Publicity
               -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
               -Patrick J. Buchanan
         -Clark MacGregor
               -Meeting with Republican leaders
                     -Connally
         -Strategy for response
               -Vietnam
                     -Democratic Party's responsibility
                           -Edmund S. Muskie
                           -Humphrey
                           -Edward Kennedy, John F. Kennedy
                           -Casualties
               -Writers
                     -Buchanan
                     -Douglas L. Hallett
                           -Wall Street Journal article
               -Vietnam
                     -Casualties
                           -The President’s responsibility
               -Response on issues
                     -Offensive
               -Meeting in Hugh Scott's office
                     -MacGregor
                     -Noel C. Koch
                           -Robert J. Dole
                           -Writing
               -Use of writers to prepare responses for Republicans
                     -Buchanan
                           -Barry M. Goldwater's op-ed piece in the New York Times
                               8

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                      Tape Subject Log
                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


                   -Vietnam bombing
      -S. Steven Karalekas
-Complacency
-Political activity
      -Democrats
-Press
      -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew statement
            -Humphrey
-Koch
      -Speeches for Congressional leaders
-Republican Congressional leadership
      -Scott
      -Goldwater
      -Dole
      -Agnew
      -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
      -Gerald R. Ford
      -News summary
      -Wendell Wyatt of Oregon
      -Edward Gurney of Florida
      -Louis Wyman
      -Primary states
            -Publicity
                   -Muskie
-Press
      -Democrats
            -Split
                   -Kennedy statements about the President
                        -Humphrey’s response
      -Kennedy speech
            -Compared to Muskie
      -Kennedy image
            -Effects
      -Muskie image
            -Colson’s view
-Vietnam
      -Democratic Party’s responsibility
            -The President’s actions
                   -Withdrawal
                   -Casualties
            -Melvin R. Laird speech
                                            9

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


                              -Muskie reaction
                    -Pentagon Papers
                         -Dole's forthcoming speech


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 3m 47s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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    Issues
         -Republican congressional statements
              -Dole
         -Vietnam
              -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.’s statement
                   -Henry A. Kissinger’s response
         -Busing

    Busing
         -Democratic Party Convention reforms
               -[Forename unknown] Godfrey column
                     -Richard M. Scammon
                          -George C. Wallace delegates
                                -Busing
         -President's conversation with John D. Ehrlichman
               -Strategy
                     -Richmond decision
                          -Staff work
                          -The President’s statements
                                -Humphrey
                                -Supreme Court
                          -Legislation

    Vietnam
                                       10

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)



Economy

Kennedy speech
    -Administration reaction
    -Press response
    -Scott's forthcoming response
    -MacGregor and Colson
    -Scott
         -Press reports
         -Relationship with Administration

Questions and answers [Q&A] for Scott on withdrawal for prisoners of war [POWs]
     -“Meet the Press”
     -Kissinger
     -Kennedy speech
           -Nguyen Van Thieu's government
     -Democrats' responsibility
           -Withdrawal
           -Casualties
           -Bombing
     -Issue of Vietnam
           -Strength
                 -Staff

Kennedy speech
    -Absence of applause
    -Quality

Humphrey
    -Speaking ability
                                             11

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 15s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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    Muskie
        -Space shuttle statement
             -Effect
             -Environmental issues

    Civil rights issue
          -Edward Kennedy
          -The Administration’s record
                -Dual school system
                -Minority enterprise
                -Food stamps
                -Welfare reform
                -Congress
                -Publicity
                -Budget message

    The President's work on speech drafts

    Daniel Yankelovich's lunch with Colson, January 17, 1972

    The President’s schedule

    Money supply
        -Arthur F. Burns
              -Connally's talk with the President
              -Shultz's beliefs
                   -James Dewey Daane
        -Peter M. Flanigan's views
              -Prime rate
                                                 12

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


               -Milton Friedman
               -Shuttle
          -Burns

     The Cabinet
          -Connally
          -Elliot L. Richardson
          -George W. Romney
          -John A. Volpe
          -Rogers C.B. Morton
          -James D. Hodgson
          -Earl L. Butz
                -Bill House's reaction
                      -Kansas
                      -Cattlemen's Association
                      -Political affiliation
                      -Corn prices
                      -Agriculture
                            -1972 election
                            -Democrats
                      -Dairy
                      -Pork products
                      -Corn

     Polls on issues, reactions
           -Yankelovich
                 -Youth polls
                       -News summary
                 -Time magazine
           -Louis P. Harris
           -Albert E. Sindlinger
                 -Wife
           -Yankelovich
                 -Polling
                       -Time
                       -New York Times

     Refreshment order

The President left at an unknown time before 10:55 am.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:25 am.

     Refreshment order

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 10:55 am.

The President entered at an unknown time after 10:25 am.

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:23 am and
10:55 am.]

[Conversation No. 650-6A]

[See Conversation No. 18-99]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Yankelovich
         -Article about malaise in American society
               -View of President
                    -Polls

[The President talked with William L. Safire between 10:55 am and 10:58 am.]

[Conversation No. 650-6B]

[See Conversation No. 18-100]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Public perception of the President
          -Mood of the country
                -Yankelovich’s views
                     -Reaction to polls
                     -Institutions
                            -Government
                            -Unknown news column of January 17, 1972
                     -Theory
                            -"Dual moralism"
                     -George H. Gallup, Harris
                     -President's strength
                                 14

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


-Buchanan's theory of leadership
      -Compared to Raymond K. Price, Jr. and Leonard Garment theory
-Confrontation with George Meany
      -Effect
            -Polls
-Polls
      -Timing
            -Harris
-Connally's views on perceptions of leaders
      -Muskie
            -Possible nomination
                  -Effect on Democrats
      -Polls
            -Approval of the President
                  -18-year-olds
      -Mood of the country
            -Confidence
      -Love
      -Hate
      -Fear
-Price-Garment theory
      -Importance of incumbency
      -Connally's views
-Connally
      -Hallet's view
            -Power
-Love, fear, hate
      -Lyndon B. Johnson
      -Dwight D. Eisenhower
      -Harry S. Truman
      -Balance
-Buchanan
-Announcements regarding Soviet Union and People's Republic of China [PRC] trips
-Supreme Court appointments
-Meany confrontation
-Media
      -Handling of stories about the President and his administration
      -Television
            -Possible effectiveness
            -PRC trip announcement
-Edward Kennedy
                                         15

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


           -PRC trip
                 -India-Pakistan War
     -Price-Garment theory
     -Buchanan's theory
     -Public relations
           -President's image
                 -Fear, hate, respect, warmth
                 -Handling by staff
                       -Richard H. Moore
                       -The President’s activities
                 -Meany confrontation
                       -Effect
     -Muskie
           -Buchanan
           -Price, Garment
           -The President’s strength of character
           -Image
     -The President’s image
           -Meany confrontation
     -Muskie’s image
           -Meet the Press
     -President's image
           -Connally's view
                 -Dan Rather
                 -Importance of emotions
     -1970 election
           -Al Capp
                 -Reaction to the projection of President's image
           -Buchanan's theory
           -Price-Garment theory
                 -Telecast in 1970 election
                       -Safire
     -Gallup poll
     -Media criticism

Issues
     -Economy
          -1971 public perceptions
     -Pentagon Papers
     -Laos
          -Media attacks on administration
                                       16

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


     -PRC
     -New economic policy
     -Meany confrontation
           -Effect on polls
                -Timing
                      -Sindlinger poll
                      -Harris poll
     -Polls
           -Sindlinger
                -Economy
                -Vietnam
                      -Effects of troop withdrawal announcement
                      -Bombing
                            -Harris
                      -Troop withdrawal announcement
                            -News summary
                            -Newsweek
           -Sindlinger
                -Methods
                      -Responses
                            -August 1971
                            -November 1971
                                  -Meany
                            -Compared to Johnson years

Vietnam
     -Use as issue
           -Democrats
     -Strategy
           -Troop withdrawals
           -Prisoners of war [POWs]
     -Amnesty

Amnesty
    -Draft evaders' comments
    -The President’s comments
         -Abraham Lincoln’s actions
    -Muskie's views
         -Comparison with administration stand
               -POWs
                                            17

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 650-6 (cont.)


     Busing
          -Muskie's view
              -Use of phrase


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6m 48s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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     Republican Congressional leadership
         -Schedule
         -Support for the Administration
         -The President's forthcoming State of the Union speech
               -Tone
               -Scott
               -Ford
               -Leslie C. Arends
               -Applause
                     -Republicans
                     -Democrats
               -Mood
                     -Colson’s calls
                     -Complacency
               -Democrats’ weaknesses

Colson left at 11:27 am.