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Start Date: 19-Jan-1972 10:30 AM

End Date: 19-Jan-1972 11:18 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Price, Raymond K., Jr.Woods, Rose Mary[Unknown person(s)]Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:34:21

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:17:54

651a.mp3

651b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Raymond K. Price, Jr., Rose Mary Woods, unknown person(s), and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:30 am to 11:18 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 651-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 651-10

Date: January 19, 1972
Time: 10:30 am - 11:18 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Raymond K. Price, Jr.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)


     State of the Union Address
           -Changes
                 -Number of words
                 -Rose Mary Woods
           -Vietnam section

Woods entered at an unknown time after 10:30 am.

     Speech draft
          -Further revisions
          -Final copy

     Julie Nixon Eisenhower
           -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II

Woods left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.

     State of the Union Address
           -Foreign Policy section
                 -Reference to John F. Kennedy’s inaugural address
                      -Possible interpretation
                            -Lyndon B. Johnson
                            -Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Dulles
                            -World War II
                            -Nixon Doctrine
                      -Possible removal
                      -Reorganization of text
                            -Context
                                  -Changes in world
                      -Edward M. Kennedy’s speech, January 18, 1972
                      -Professional liberal establishment
                            -Interventionist views
                 -Phraseology
                      -Revisions
           -Agriculture section
                 -Value
                 -Revisions
                      -Farm income
                      -Developing rural America theme

     The President’s previous conversation with Nelson A. Rockefeller
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)


          -Rockefeller’s State of the State Address
               -Newspaper accounts
               -John V. Lindsay


     Professional liberals compared to conservatives

     State of the Union Address
           -Revisions
                 -American industry
                      -Productivity compared to technology
                           -Peter G. Peterson’s view
                           -Phraseology
                                 -Foreign competition
                                 -Goals
                                 -Subtlety
                                 -Changes
                                      -Delivery to Ronald L. Ziegler

     State of the Union Address
           -Revisions
                 -Welfare reform
                      -Duration before Congress
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                 -New York Harbor
                 -Congress’s work in political year [1972]
                      -Americans’ view
                 -Farmers
                      -Prosperity
                            -Farm income
           -Circulation
                 -Woods
           -Release
                 -Timing
                      -Ziegler
                            -Press coverage
                 -Woods

An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 10:30 am.

     Request that Ziegler join them
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)



The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.

     Edward Kennedy’s speech
         -Text
         -Tone
         -Authorship
               -Speechwriter
         -Statesmanship
         -Responsibility
         -Truthfulness

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:00 am.

     State of the Union Address
           -Release to press
                 -Timing
                       -Length of statements
                       -Submitted address
                             -Pre-release
                                   -Garnett D. (“Jack”) Horner
                                   -Wire services
                       -Submitted address compared to delivered address
                             -Recapping and justification
                             -Appeal for bipartisanship
                       -Press interest
                       -Joint release
                             -Pre-release to evening press and wires
           -Delivered address
                 -Compared with 1970 and 1971 addresses
                       -New initiatives
                       -Tone
                             -Tax reform
                             -Technology
                             -Nonpartisanship
           -Release to press
                 -Pre-release to evening press and wires
                 -General release
                       -Newspapers and networks
                 -Network briefing
                       -Congress
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)


                      -Value
                            -Ziegler’s previous conversation with Ehrlichman
           -Submitted address
                 -Production changes to submitted address
           -Ehrlichman’s briefing
                 -The President’s expectations of Congressional action
                      -Revenue sharing
                      -Welfare reform
                      -Government reorganization
                      -Health
                      -Environment

     Foreign policy [State of the World] statement
          -Release
               -Date

     State of the Union Address
           -Compared with Edward Kennedy’s speech
                 -Press coverage
                 -Democrats’ stand on issues
                       -Possible consequence
                             -The President’s policy
                 -Price’s views
                       -Content
                 -Content
                       -Policies

     Edward Kennedy
         -Popularity
              -Ziegler’s view
                    -Washington, DC
                          -Women’s press corps

     State of the Union Address
           -Changes
                 -Woods
                 -Copies

Price left at 11:09 am.

     Forthcoming press briefing
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)


     -Expropriation
          -Policy statement
                -Peterson
          -Economic issue
                -Deficit
                      -Paul A. Volcker’s statement
                            -Context
                      -Hobart Rowen

West Coast Dock strike
     -Administration action
          -Timing
                -State of the Union Address
          -Florida

Ziegler’s schedule

Amnesty
    -News summary
        -Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s statement
              -Prison

Jack N. Anderson Papers
     -Patrick J. Buchanan’s concern
     -Administration handling
           -Compared with Pentagon Papers
     -Public reaction
     -Henry A. Kissinger
     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
     -Kissinger
           -Possible press conference
     -Administration credibility
     -Foreign policy
           -India
                 -Use of United States aid
           -Kissinger
                 -Meetings and conversations with the President
                      -Tone
                      -Options for the President
                            -Ziegler’s briefings
           -India
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)


                      -US policy
                            -Ziegler’s briefing in Florida
                                  -The President’s conversations with Kissinger
                                  -Reports in columns
                -Administration credibility
                      -Critics
                            -Secrecy in government
                -Kissinger
                      -Mood
                      -J. William Fulbright and associates
                      -Policy-making role
                            -The President’s role as policy-maker
                      -Backgrounder on India
                            -Plane
                            -Press room
                            -US policy
                                  -Kissinger’s representation
                                        -Ziegler’s remarks to Kissinger
                                        -Effect
                                        -Purposes
                                              -Press views
           -Buchanan’s view
           -Kissinger’s further remarks
           -Administration credibility
                -Critics
                -Public view
           -Secret negotiations
                -Future disclosures by administration
                      -Public’s possible reaction
                -Public’s view
                -Policy formulation
                -Credibility
                      -Leaks
                            -Timing

     State of the Union Address
           -Release and distribution
                 -Friends of administration

Ziegler left at 11:18 am.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 651-10 (cont.)