Conversation: 653-012
Prev: 653-011 Next: 653-013Start Date: 24-Jan-1972 11:59 AM
End Date: 24-Jan-1972 12:32 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rizzo, Frank L.; Ehrlichman, John D.; White House photographer; Miller, Jacqui; Caracciolo, John; Mulloney, Thomas; Schoenfeld, Henry; Harris, Gene; Katz, John; Zacharias, Lou; Mitchell, Andre; Lynch, Dan; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:12:38
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:46:48
NARA Description:
On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Frank L. Rizzo, John D. Ehrlichman, White House photographer, Jacqui Miller, John Caracciolo, Thomas Mulloney, Henry Schoenfeld, Gene Harris, John Katz, Lou Zacharias, Andre Mitchell, Dan Lynch, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:59 am to 12:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 653-12
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 653-11 (cont.)
Date: January 24, 1972
Time: 11:59 am - 12:32 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Frank L. Rizzo and John D. Ehrlichman; the White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
Seating arrangements
[Photograph session]
Press
Philadelphia politics
-Rizzo’s support of the President
-Rizzo’s election
-James H.J. Tate
-Previous meeting with Philadelphia Republicans
-Rizzo’s party affiliation
-Previous position as police chief
-Rizzo’s support of the President
-Rizzo’s view of Edmund S. Muskie and Hubert H. Humphrey
-The President’s relation with Rizzo
-Rizzo’s and the President’s stand on issues
-Rizzo’s party affiliation
-Compared to political opponents
-Law and order, justice, progress
-Allegations of racism
-Extreme left
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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:59 am.
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.
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-Blacks
-View of Rizzo
-Law and order
-Support of the President
-Rizzo’s campaigning
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Philadelphia police chief
-Rizzo’s appointment
-Condition of Rizzo’s resignation
-Tate
-Joseph L. O’Neill
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[Duration: 3m ]
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Conv. No. 653-12 (cont.)
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Milton J. Shapp
-Appointment of federal judges
-Lois G. Forer
-Community of Legal Services
-Philadelphia police force
-Riot
-Julian F. King
-Brothers-in-law
-Walter H. Annenberg’s view
-Treatment of Rizzo
-Brutality case
-Demonstrators at State Building
-Raymond P. Shafer
-Activities
-Throwing things, use of obscenities
-Philadelphia police’s response
-Injuries
-Shapp’s statement on television
-Comparison between Rizzo and George C. Wallace
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[Duration: 3m 31s ]
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Rizzo
-Governing Philadelphia
-Hugh Scott’s influence
-Administration’s work with mayor’s staff
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 653-12 (cont.)
-Relations with Ehrlichman
-Bureaucracy
-Statement’s on television
-Taxes
-Rizzo’s relation with the President
-Revenue sharing
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Hearings
-Passage
-Prospects
-Law Enforcement Assistance Administration Act [LEAA]
-Meetings with transportation and other officials, January 24, 1972
-James M. Beggs
-Report to Ehrlichman
-Federal funds
-Contracts
-Rizzo’s staff
Present meeting
-Photographs
-Philadelphia press accompanying Rizzo
Ehrlichman left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.
-Agenda
-Urban problems
-LEAA
-Revenue sharing
-Philadelphia
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Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 11:59 am.
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John V. Lindsay
-Statement regarding Wallace
-Stormtroopers
-Wallace’s answer
-New York City police
-Birmingham
-New York City
-Association with liberals
-Strategy
-Image
-John F. Kennedy
-Morale of New York City police force
-Patrick V. Murphy
-Hearing
-J. Edgar Hoover’s view
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
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[Duration: 26s ]
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Leon H. Sullivan
-Contacts with past Presidents
-Relations with Rizzo
-Contact with Ehrlichman
Rizzo
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 653-12 (cont.)
-Contact with administration
-Instructions to Ehrlichman
-Meeting with Philadelphia leaders
All or some of the following entered at an unknown time after 11:59 am: Jacqui Muller, John
Caracciolo, Tom Moloney, Henry Schoenfeld, Gene Harris, John Katz, Lou Zacuarias, Andrea
Mitchell, and Dan Lynch and Stephen B. Bull.
Refreshment
State gifts
[Photograph session]
Press
-Introductions
-Katz of Philadelphia Daily News
-Harris of Philadelphia Bulletin
-Mitchell of WKYW
-Muller of WTUI
[Forename unknown] Cummings [sp?] of the Philadelphia Enquirer
Presidential gifts
-Pens
-Signing of budget
1973 budget
-Size
Introductions
The President’s previous meeting with Rizzo
-Fiscal matters
-Revenue-sharing
-Congressional hearings
-Impact on Philadelphia
-Mills
-Name
-Transportation
-LEAA
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 653-12 (cont.)
-Federal programs
-Ehrlichman
-Domestic Council
-Cooperation with Philadelphia
-Meeting with Rizzo’s staff
-Administration’s relations with cities
-Federal funds
-Ehrlichman’s responsibilities
-Politics
-Administration’s relations with cities
-The President’s experience in California politics
-Non-partisanship
-Politics
-Nonpartisanship
-Importance
[General conversation]
-Airplane
Rizzo, et al. left at 12:32 pm.