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Conversation: 664-008

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Start Date: 2-Feb-1972 12:18 PM

End Date: 2-Feb-1972 12:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.Bailey, Pearl M.Hurst, J. WillisReid, RossHundley, James M. (Dr.)Moses, CampbellArkus, M. FrederiskCornell, HerbertCole, Kenneth R., Jr.Cavanaugh, James H.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:10:47

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:27:15

664a.mp3

664b.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, Pearl M. Bailey, J. Willis Hurst, Ross Reid, Dr. James M. Hundley, Campbell Moses, M. Frederisk Arkus, Herbert Cornell, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:34 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 664-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 664-8

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: 12:18 pm - 12:34 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

     Congressional relations
         -Welfare reform bill
               -Status
                     -Pilot programs
                           -Conservatives and liberals
               -Elliot L. Richardson press conference
                     -Attendance
               -Press reaction
                     -Effect of Richardson announcement
               -Abraham A. Ribicoff role
                     -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan’s role
               -Ronald W. Reagan role
                     -Possible disagreements
               -Ribicoff role
                     -Pilot program
                           -Liberal role
                           -Final bill form
                           -Use of Louisiana
                           -Use of Delaware
                                 -Governor of Delaware [Russell W. Peterson]
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 664-8 (cont.)


                                  -Delaware make up
                                        -Proximity to Washington, DC
                             -Use of pilot programs
                                  -Amount of money allocated

     President’s schedule
          -Ehrlichman’s schedule
                -Ribicoff

Stephen B. Bull entered at 12:23 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Details of Pearl M. Bailey visit

     Legal services

Bull left and Bailey, Dr. and Mrs. J. Willis Hurst, Ross Reid, Dr. James M. Hundley, Dr.
Campbell Moses, M. Frederick Arkus, Herbert Cornell, Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and
James H. Cavanaugh entered at 12:23 pm; the White House photographer and members of the
press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings
          -Photographs

     Presentation of award from American Heart Association [AHA]
          -Purpose of award
          -Feeling for Bailey
                -Past accomplishments
          -Bailey’s position as volunteer ambassador at large
          -Burden of Presidency
          -Bailey
                -Talents
                -Concern with heart problems

     Fundraising
          -Research

     Signing of proclamation

     Presentation of gifts
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 664-8 (cont.)


      [General conversation]
           -Philadelphia
           -Gifts
           -Upcoming trip by Bailey
           -Fund raising

      The President’s schedule
           -[Richard W. Mallary]

Bailey, et al. left at 12:34 pm.