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Start Date: 3-Feb-1972 4:23 PM

End Date: 3-Feb-1972 4:42 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Colson, Charles W.Woods, Rose MaryBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 06:02:22

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 06:20:51

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NARA Description:

On February 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:23 pm to 4:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 665-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 665-11

Date: February 3, 1972
Time: 4:23 pm - 4:42 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson and Rose Mary Woods.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


     President’s previous meeting with Yevgeny Yevtushenko
          -Ziegler’s forthcoming comments to press
                -The President’s reading
                -President’s forthcoming visits to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                      and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                -Yevtushenko’s visit to US
                -Poetry
                      -Discussion of arts
                           -Transcending politics

     Note to William P. Rogers


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 10s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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     President’s upcoming meeting with Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
          -Timing

Woods and Ziegler left at 4:26 pm.

     National economy
          -Unemployment
                -Administration’s statistics
                -Unknown person
                -Married men
                     -Percentage
                           -Compared to early 1960’s
                -Colson’s conversation with James D. Hodgson
                -Prospects
                     -Comparisons to last year

     Rogers
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


         -Comments concerning Edmund S. Muskie’s speech on Vietnam

    Muskie
        -Speech on Vietnam
             -Possible administration response
                  -President’s 1968 Republican Platform Committee statement
             -Negotiations
                  -Peace
                        -Muskie’s involvement
             -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s possible response
             -Jackson’s forthcoming Meet the Press, February 6, 1972
                  -Briefing by White House staff member


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 47s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    Muskie
        -Speech on Vietnam
             -Possible administration response
             -President’s memorandum, February 2, 1972
                   -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                        -John A. Scali
             -Rogers
                   -Compared to John Foster Dulles
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 9s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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                -Barry M. Goldwater
                -Rogers

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:26 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Moorer
                -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                -President’s instructions

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Possible delay
                -Robert S. Ingersoll

     President’s schedule
          -Moorer
          -Alexander P. Butterfield
          -Ingersoll
          -Haig

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.

     National economy
          -Unemployment
                -Herbert Stein
          -Status
                -Income
                -Inflation
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


          -Unemployment

Rogers
    -Conversation with Colson
          -Relations with press
    -Conversation with Colson
    -Forthcoming Face the Nation, February 6, 1972
          -Jackson
    -Goldwater speech
    -Patrick J. Buchanan
          -Possible Administration resposne

Muskie
    -Speech on Vietnam
         -Arizona and Iowa
         -Press comment on Muskie speech
         -Unknown reporter’s conversation with Colson, January 31, 1972
    -Press conference
    -Possible attacks by Democrats
    -Forthcoming attacks by Jackson
         -The environment, busing, and the space shuttls
    -Goldwater
    -Speech on Vietnam
         -Possible administration response

Vietnam
     -Negotiations
         -Peace offer
                -Reaction by Viet Cong
         -Wall Street Journal editorial
                -Distribution
     -Administration propaganda
         -Upcoming special issues of Monday
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s trip to Africa
                -The President’s peace initiatives
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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     National economy
          -Stock Market
                -Volume
                     -American Stock Exchange
                     -Brokers’ profits
                          -Comparisons to 1968

     Michael J. Mansfield

Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:26 pm.

     The President’s schedule
          -Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.

    The press
         -Edith Efron
         -Colson’s conversation with Leonard H. Goldenson, February 3, 1972
         -Network coverage of Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. Committee
              -Walter J. Cronkite, Jr.’s testimony
              -Accuracy in Media’s challenge to Federal Communications Commission
[FCC]
                    -David Brinkley’s previous commentary about military state
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 665-11 (cont.)


     President’s schedule
          -Florida
                -Preparation for forthcoming trip to PRC
                      -Readings

Colson left at 4:42 pm.