Conversation: 670-007
Prev:  670-006 Next: 670-008Start Date: 14-Feb-1972 10:07 AM
End Date: 14-Feb-1972 10:59 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Burns, Arthur F.; Bull, Stephen B.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:10:41
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:04:08
NARA Description:
On February 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Arthur F. Burns, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:07 am to 10:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 670-007 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 670-7 Date: February 14, 1972 Time: 10:07 am - 10:59 am Location: Oval Office The President met with John D. Ehrlichman and Arthur F. Burns. People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip -The President’s departure -Timing -Length -Arrival time 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-6 (cont.) -World changes -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] trip -Arms control -Importance -Future impact -Chinese -Japanese -Indonesians -Concern for Chinese neighbors -Importance of arms control -Use of individuals -Mao Tse-tung -Chou En-lai -Mao Tse-tung -Chiang Kai-shek Economy -Ehrlichman -Domestic Council -George P. Shultz -Interest rates -Money supply -Timing -M-1 -New York board -Alfred Hayes -Assistance from Administration -David Rockefeller -Unknown person -Relationship to Burns -Possible disciplinary action -Prices -Instability -President’s instructions to Burns -November 1972 -William McChesney Martin, Jr. -President’s recollection -Interest rates -Banks -Money supply -Possible increase 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Amount -M-1, M-2 -Milton Friedman -Ideas -Comparison to war -Budget -Controls -Burns -Testimony -Opinion on strong factors -Retail sales -Rising prices -Taxes -Unknown man -Reform -Value added tax [VAT] -Property taxes -Schools -John B. Connally -Cut -Congress -VAT -Corporate income tax -Property tax -Corporate tax -Individual tax -Property tax -VAT -Burns’s support -Timing -Tax bill -Reform -Normal operations Busing -White House position -Bipartisan committee -Neil H. McElroy committee -Support -Commission -Courts 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -State level -Possible crisis -McElroy Commission -Burns -Parochial schools -Public schools -Comparisons and differences -Private school committee -Public schools -Blacks -Public schools -Problems stated -Constitutional amendments -Howard H. Baker, Jr. -William E. Brock, III -Harry F. Byrd, Jr. -Robert P. Griffin -Thomas N. Downing -Norman F. Lent -Thomas J. (“Tom”) Steed -John G. Tower -Elliot L. Richardson -John N. Mitchell -Possible explanation of problems to Congress -Scheduling -Meeting -Briefing papers -Ehrlichman -Baker -Grasp of subject matter -Griffin -Different approach -Baker -Position of Administration opponents -John V. Lindsay -Edward M. Kennedy -George S. McGovern -Edmund S. Muskie -Hubert H. Humphrey -Changes on the issues -Black education 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Quality -The President’s view -Brown vs. Board of Education -Meaning -Segregated education -Quality education -Black children -Neighborhood breakdown -Churches -Schools -Friends -Forced transportation -Opportunities -Choices -Legal restrictions Appointments -Andrew F. Brimmer -President’s previous conversation with William P. Rogers -Ehrlichman -Shultz -St. Lawrence Seaway -Panama Canal -Ambassadorship -Sweden -Black -Jerome H. Holland -Europe -Length -Sweden -Desirability -Black -Africa -Frederic V. Malek -Sweden -Responsibilities -Finland -Rogers -United Nations [UN] -Malek -Gathering of European ambassadors 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Latin America -Europe -Potential for safety -Holland -Problems -Finland -State Department -Central Bank of Sweden -Austria -Europe -Location -West Germany Budget -Stimulation -Money -Contractor -Pay in advance -1972-73 financial transfers -Burns’s plan -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger -Report to the President -Accomplishments -Buying hardware -Fred C. Foy -Koppers Corporation -Press conference -90,000 jobs created -California -White House budget stimulation -Buying hardware -747s -Production -Number -Weinberger -Reports to a committee -Monthly compared to weekly -Burns’s view -Contractors -Shipping -Airplanes 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Transactions -Weinberger -Weekly reports -John B. Connally -Defense -Robert C. Moot -Weinberger -Shultz -Cabinet officers -Weekly reports -Created for the President and Weinberger -Budget figures -State Department -Connally -John A. Volpe -Rohr Industries -Contract (Hardware) -San Diego -Urban Mass Transit experiment -Amount -California -Treasury Department -Withholding problem -Administration awareness -Release of tables -Sabotage -Withholding rates -Change -Internal Revenue Service [IRS] -John W. Dean, III -Connally -Johnnie M. Walters -Publicity -Radio and television advertisements -Warnings in pay envelopes -Under withholding -Constituency -Married people -Over withholding -Burns’s opinion -Advertising 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Director of research at FRB [J. Charles Partee] -Withholding form -Time to prepare -Average American worker -Difficulties -FRB -Comptroller -Fill out withholding forms for staff -Business firms -Withholding forms -Preparation for employees -Appeal to individuals -Congress -Suggestions -White House -Revenue Act of 1971 -Burns’s proposal -Dinners -Business people -Weekly -Size -Anticipated results Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:07 am. Schedule -Meeting -Senators -Congressmen -Cabinet Room -Timing -Ronald L. Ziegler Bull left at an unknown time before 10:59 am. Business people -White House dinners -Possible effect -Campaign -Confidence -Relay messages to hometowns 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Big business -Size of towns -Connally -Peter G. Peterson -Business Council meetings -Conduct -40% of American businesses represented -Connally -Involvement -Blair House meetings -Weekly -Connally -Maurice H. Stans -Cabinet members -White House staff -Council of Economic Affairs [CEA] -Business and labor -Success Busing Budget -Working toward one goal -Expansion -Price and wage control -Economists’ analyses -Free economy -Decisions and decision makers -Governmental level -Confidence Economy -Burns -Tone comments -Fourth quarter 1971 -First and second quarters, 1972 -Arthur Goldberg -Talk with the President -Wage Board -PRC trip -Donald H. Rumsfeld 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) -Dr. Neil H. Jacoby -Occidental Life Insurance Co. -Resignation -Robert S. McNamara -Chairman of Wage Board -Rumsfeld -Availability FRB -Board of Governors -Appointment -Scali’s work -Vacant post -Search for viable candidates -California -Type of candidate -Prestige -William D. Eberle -Banker -Claire Giannini Hoffman -Age -Burns -Selection of name Busing -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson -Proposed constitutional amendment -Dual school system -Equal education -State level -Florida primary -Forced integrated housing -Lost cost public housing ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 14s ] 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 670-7 (cont.) END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ****************************************************************************** -Public housing -Possible effect on economy -Social mobility -Burns -Possible statements -George W. Romney Burns left at an unknown time before 10:59 am. Public housing and busing Economy The President’s schedule Ehrlichman left at 10:59 am.