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Start Date: 1-Mar-1972 9:57 AM

End Date: 1-Mar-1972 11:19 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.Acker, Marjorie P.Butterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:19:59

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:39:29

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676b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Ronald L. Ziegler, Marjorie P. Acker, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:57 am to 11:19 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 676-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 676-15

Date: March 1, 1972
Time: 9:57 am - 11:19 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Stephen B. Bull.

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting with John B. Connally
               -Testimony
          -Request for Ronald L. Ziegler

     Bull left at an unknown time before 10:00am.

           -Haldeman’s schedule
           -West Virginia flood damage
                -Lack of landing space
                     -Compared to Mississippi
                -Robert C. Byrd
                     -Forthcoming call from Haldeman or Clark MacGregor
                -Decision
                     -Helicopter


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An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 9:57 am.

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 10:00 am.

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Ziegler entered at 10:00 am.
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                                 Tape Subject Log
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                                                                   Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)



The staff’s forthcoming trip to Florida
     -Ziegler’s participation
     -Orlando
            -Disneyworld
            -Arrangements
            -Schedule
                  -Participants
                        -Henry A. Kissinger’s, staff
                              -Winston Lord
                              -Jonathan T. Howe
                        -Ziegler’s staff
                              -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
                              -Patrick J. Buchanan
                              -John A. Scali
                                    -Key Biscayne
                              -Buchanan
                              -Rose Mary Woods
            -Entertainment
                  -The President’s possible trip to Disneyworld
                        -Patriotic theme
                              -Hall of Presidents
                              -Liberty Square
                        -Previous visits by Haldeman and Ziegler
                        -Activities available
                              -Compared to Disneyland
                              -Lake
                                    -Beach
                                    -Surfing
                                    -Water skiing
                              -Horseback riding trails
                              -Sailing
                        -Florida primary
                              -Effect on trip

Ziegler’s press schedule
     -Briefings
           -Ziegler’s afternoon briefings
                 -The People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip; Soviet trip
                       -Gerald L. Warren’s morning briefing
                            -Postings
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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                                                                  Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                   -Kissinger’s backgrounder
                   -[Forename unknown] Dudlin, James A. Michener and Robert [?] Boyd
                   -Television network
                   -Broadcast journalists
                   -Wire services
              -Leaders of Congress
                   -Bipartisan leadership
                         -Possible PRC trip
                              -Hugh Scott
                              -Michael J. Mansfield
                              -Chou En-lai
                              -Washington Post
                              -US- PRC exchange
                                    -Taiwan, Republic of China
                                    -Ping Pong players
                                    -Ballet dancers
                              -Taiwan
                                    -Walter H. Judd
                                    -United Nations [UN] vote to expel Taiwan
                                    -US commitments
                                    -Congressional leader’s reactions
                         -The Presidents previous meeting with Congressional leadership
                                    -John C. Stennis

    PRC trip
        -Effect of return from the PRC on participants
             -Press


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                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


           -Press members reactions
           -Awareness of significance
                -News summaries
                -Public reaction
                -State dinners

           -Kissinger’s schedule
                -Forthcoming backgrounder

Ziegler left at 10:12 am.

     Ziegler
          -The PRC trip
               -Work during the trip
                    -The President’s view
                    -Haldeman’s view
                         -Hugh S. Sidney

     PRC
           -Sidey’s article
           -Edward M. Kennedy
                -Press exposure
                      -View of the PRC
                -Possible trip to the PRC
                      -The President’s view
                      -Press interest
                            -Compared to second dinner
                            -Compared to second moon landing
           -Scott and Mansfield
                -Trips to the PRC
                -Public interest
           -The President’s status as first official visitor
                -Kissinger’s efforts
           -Candidates possible trips
                -Press coverage
                -Reception by the PRC
           -Publications
                -Polling
                      -Haldeman’s efforts
                      -John N. Mitchell
                -Press reaction to the People’s Republic of China trip
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                              Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                   -Monday
                         -Layout suggestions
                         -Pictorial coverage
                         -Homecoming of the President
         -Thank you letters for the PRC trip
              -Nelson A. Rockefeller
              -Kennedy
              -Raymond K. Price, Jr.


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    Presidential gifts to government officials
         -Gifts to the Cabinet
               -Boxes
         -Gifts to the Congressional leadership
               -Teacups

    The President’s recent meeting with Connally
         -Pay Board, Price Commission

    Congress
        -Leadership
             -Connally
                   -Senate
                   -Ways and Means Committee
             -Testimony by Cabinet officers
                   -Haldeman

    William P. Rogers
         -Flag pin
               -Cambodia
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                     -The President’s previous meeting with the Cabinet
          -Previous telephone call to the President
               -Call to Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
               -The President’s schedule
               -Time of call
               -Timing of the President’s return call
                     -The President’s forthcoming trip to Florida
                           -Rogers’s possible participation
                           -Announcement
                                -Ziegler
                                -Haig
          -PRC
               -Compared to Taiwan
          -Rogers’s travels abroad
               -Soviet Union
               -Yugoslavia
                     -The President’s previous trip to Yugoslavia
                     -Romania
                     -Yugoslavian security
          -The President’s possible telephone call
          -Rogers’s comments
               -The President’s view
                     -Ziegler

     The President’s forthcoming meeting with Haig

     The President’s Florida trip

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:12 am.

     Meeting with Haig

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:14 am.

     Florida
           -Weather
               -Camp David

     The PRC trip
          -Homecoming
               -Television
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                     Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                       -Akron
                       -Columbus

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:12 am.

     Haig’s location
          -Kissinger


Bull left at an unknown time before 11:14 am.

     The PRC trip
          -Possible support to country
               -Ziegler
               -Openness with the PRC
                     -Shanghai Communiqué
                     -America’s reaction

     Press conference
           -Television exposure
                -Busing
                -New Hampshire
                -Economy
                -Unemployment
           -Timing
                -PRC trip
                -New Hampshire primary
                      -Haldeman’s view
                -Florida primary
                -Forthcoming messages to Congress
                      -Special Message to the Congress on Health Care, March 2
                      -Urban message
                      -Special Message to the Congress on Older Americans, March 23
                      -Special Message to the Congress on Science and Technology, March 16
                      -Law Enforcement Assistance Administration [LEAA] message
                      -Special Message to the Congress on Equal Educational Opportunities and
                           Scholl Busing, March17
                      -Special Message to the Congress on Welfare Reform, March 27


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    The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
         -Reactions
              -Staff
              -Cabinet
              -Congress
              -Buchanan
                     -Taiwan

    Buchanan
        -Shanghai communiqué
        -Participation in PRC trip
              -The President’s view
              -William F. Buckley Jr.
        -Haldeman’s view
              -Purchases by Buchanan and Buckley
              -Buchanan’s photograph
        -Chinese ballet
              -The President’s view
                    -Compared to Soviet ballet
                          -Swan Lake
        -Chinese and Soviets
              -Compared by Buchanan
        -Shanghai communiqué
              -Taiwan
              -Buchanan’s previous conversation with Kissinger
                    -Communism
        -Kissinger
              -Ronald W. Reagan
              -Barry M. Goldwater
        -Efforts
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


          -Haldeman’s forthcoming call to Buchanan
                -Florida
     -Speechwriters
          -William L. Safire and Price
                -Participation in the President’s forthcoming Soviet trip
          -Travel accommodations
                -Number of planes
     -Shanghai Communiqué
          -The Presidents view
                -Conservative constituency
          -Buckley

Republican views
    -Kissinger’s briefing
          -John G. Tower
          -Wallace F. Bennett
          -James L. Buckley
          -Gordon Allott

Kissinger’s schedule
     -Florida
     -Possible meeting with James Buckley

The PRC trip
     -Rogers
          -Recent talk with Haig
               -Haig compared to Kissinger
          -Taiwan
          -Opinion of Chinese society
               -Transportation
               -Korean War
               -Population
               -Communism
                     -Example of Haldeman’s interpreter
                           -Mao Tse-tung
               -Classes
                     -Leaders
                           -Compared to American society
                                -Discipline
               -Improvements since revolution
               -Concept of freedom
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                                  Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                    -Mao Tse-tung’s programs
                         -Inspiration for the masses
                               -Spiritual
                               -Intellectual
                         -Compared to the early Catholic Church
                    -Rogers’s use of background material
                    -Kissinger’s view
                         -Long March
                         -Children

                               -Shanghai
                               -Physical fitness

    Buchanan
        -Future talk with Haldeman
             -Haldeman’s view
        -The President’s view
             -Buchanan’s possible resignation




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    The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
         -Herbert G. Klein
              -Desire to travel on the President’s plane
                     -Work done on plane
                          -Haldeman’s staff
                                -Logistics
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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                                                                    Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                         -Kissinger’s staff
                              -Substance

    Buchanan
        -Shanghai communiqué
             -Ziegler
                  -Ziegler’s view

    The President’s schedule
         -Forthcoming trip to Florida
              -White House staff
                     -Relaxation
                     -John D. Ehrlichman
                           -Staff meeting
                     -Camp David
                           -Connally
                                 -Alexander P. Butterfield
                           -Cabinet members
              -Staff accommodations
                     -George P. Shultz’s stay in Florida
                     -Forthcoming staff visit to Disneyworld
              -Allin’s schedule
                     -Maimi
                     -Fort Myers
                     -Work on news summaries
                           -Haldeman’s view
                     -Trip to Florida
                           -Fort Myers
              -Kissinger’s staff
              -Kissinger
              -Per diem for staff members and their families at Disneyworld
              -Sandy Quinn
                     -Background
                           -Press relations for the President, 1962
                           -Klein
                           -Reagan


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                           -Walt Disney


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     White House gifts from the President’s trip to the PRC
          -Possible telephone call to Rose Mary Woods
          -The President’s brothers
               -Tea sets
          -Rose Mary Woods
               -Candy for staff
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

Marjorie P. Acker entered at an unknown time after 10:12 am.

          -Acker’s possible telephone calls to the President’s and Mrs. Nixon’s brothers
               -The President’s brothers
               -Ryan families
               -Bender family
               -Ryans
               -F. Donald Nixon
               -Edward C. Nixon
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                                        Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                -Wives
                -Postcards from the President
                -Tea sets
                -Children
                     -Elephants
                     -Dolls
                     -Scrolls
                -Clara Jane Nixon
                -Ed Nixon
                -Ryan families
                -Ed Nixon
                     -Mitchell

Acker left at an unknown time before 11:14 am.

     Rose Mary Woods
          -Schedule
               -The President’s view


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     The PRC trip
          -Eating and sleeping habits
                -The President
                -Haldeman
                -The President’s view
                -Haldeman’s view
                     -Key Biscayne
                           -Sleep
                -The President’s view
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                                                                     Conv. No. 676-15 (cont.)


                      -Kissinger
                 -Haldeman’s view

Butterfield entered at 11:14 am.

     The President’s schedule
          -Forthcoming briefing
               -Warren
               -Announcement
                      -The President’s forthcoming trip to Florida
                           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                           -Ehrlichman
                                 -Domestic Council
                                 -Busing
                           -Kissinger
                           -Mrs. Nixon
                                 -Connally [?]
                                 -California

Butterfield left at 11:17 am.

     Haldeman’s forthcoming call to Buchanan
          -Florida trip
                -Staff plane
                      -Haldeman’s view
                      -Orlando
                      -Miami

Haldeman left at 11:19 am.