Conversation: 681-002
Prev:  681-001 Next: 681-003Start Date: 9-Mar-1972 9:28 AM
End Date: 9-Mar-1972 12:50 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); White House operator; Skelton, Richard ("Red"); [Unknown person(s)]; Kissinger, Henry A.; Woods, Rose Mary; Cox, Tricia Nixon; Sanchez, Manolo; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:17:51
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:44:42
NARA Description:
On March 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Richard ("Red") Skelton, unknown person(s), Henry A. Kissinger, Rose Mary Woods, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:28 am to 12:50 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 681-002 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 681-2 Date: March 9, 1972 Time: 9:28 am - 12:50 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with H. R. Haldeman. Haldeman’s schedule -Door International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] investigation -Clark MacGregor -Roman L. Hruska -Hearings -Meeting with leadership committee -Peter M. Flanigan and Henry A. Kissinger -Jack N. Anderson’s prepared statement -Copy needed -Hruska -Contributions to campaign -Advertising -John W. Byrnes -Richard W. McLaren -Television appearance -Haldeman -Compared to Griswold v. Connecticut Supreme Court case 2 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Public opinion -Lobbyists -Problems -John N. Mitchell -Dita D. Beard memorandum -John B. Connally -Hilton -Federal Communications Commission [FCC] investigation -Congressional knowledge -Hruska -Edward M. Kennedy -General Motors [GM] -Pennsylvania Central Transportation Company -Maurice H. Stans, the President, Mitchell, David M. Kennedy -Arthur F. Burns -Hearings -Democrats News stories -Aircraft bombing -New Hampshire primary -Aircraft bombing -Possibility of additional bombs -Checking passengers -Deputies -Placement of bomb -Los Angeles -Lack of injuries -New Hampshire primary ITT case -Anderson -Leaks to press -Amount of information -Story in Washington Post -Contribution -Haldeman -Public relations efforts -Strategy -Charles W. Colson -Robert J. Dole -Hotels 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Contributions -Link with ITT -Strategy -Corporate contributions -Court decision -Contribution Tricia Nixon Cox -Schedule -Young Republicans -National Portrait Gallery -Dinner -Read statement from the President Dinner -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew -Speech -MacGregor -Politics -The President’s position -New Hampshire ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 4m 32s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ****************************************************************************** Editorials 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Guns -William Loeb on the Today show -Connally -Texas -Los Angeles ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ****************************************************************************** -Watts riot ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 6s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ****************************************************************************** Guns -Haldeman’s view -The President’s experience -Haldeman’s experience 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 8m 38s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ****************************************************************************** ITT case -Press conference -Schedule -Testimony -Mitchell -Administration side -Mitchell -Health -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland -Martha (Beall) Mitchell -Possible vacation -Timing -Hearings -Florida -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 2m 7s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 ****************************************************************************** The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 9:28 am and 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) 9:59 am. [Conversation No. 681-2A] [See Conversation No. 21-26] [End of telephone conversation] ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 9s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 ****************************************************************************** The President talked with Richard (“Red”) Skelton between 9:59 am and 10:00 a.m. [Conversation No. 681-2B] [See Conversation No. 21-27] [End of telephone conversation] Skelton -1968 Washington Post story -Poll Cabinet Room -Heat -Fireplace -Portable heaters ****************************************************************************** 7 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 4m 51s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8 ****************************************************************************** An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 10:00 am. Rose Mary Woods -Schedule -Forthcoming meeting with the President The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 10:09 am. Woods -Work habits -White House staff -Speeches -Drafts The President’s schedule -Gridiron dinner -Agnew -California -Republicans -Agnew -The President -Ronald W. Reagan -Mitchell -Henry A. Kissinger Kissinger entered at 10:09 am. Kissinger’s schedule -California -Roast 8 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) News summary -The People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip -Hugh S. Sidey -Time-Life -Stewart J.O. Alsop -John F. Osborne -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon -Joseph W. Alsop -Composition of news summary -Right-wing -Sidey, Stewart Alsop, Life, Osborne -Balance of stories -Stewart Alsop -Kissinger -State Department -Television -Spectrum [?] -Rogers -Mao Tse-tung -Alsop’s talk with Kissinger -State Department -Life -Shanghai Communique -Sidey -Thomas Griffith -Balance -Impact on White House staff -Woods -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin -William F. Buckley, Jr. -United Press International [UPI] wire -New York Times -Stewart Alsop -Balance Kissinger’s schedule -Previous meeting with Melvin R. Laird -Public opinion -The President -Second term -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] 9 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Cooperation -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer US – Soviet Union relations -SALT -James L. Buckley and John G. Tower -Submarines -Land based missiles -Agreements -Submarines -Land based missiles -Rogers -Development of submarines -Undersea Long-range Missile Systems [ULMS] -Congress -Communique -PRC trip -Compared to forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union -Gerard C. Smith Rogers -Stewart Alsop -Possible change of Secretary of State -Connally -Mitchell -The President’s view -Administration opponents -Elliot L. Richardson -[David] Kenneth Rush -Kissinger’s view -Rush -Press stories -State Department relations with the White House -The President’s view -Cabinet relations -British parliamentary system -Kissinger’s view -Democratic convention -Soviet summit -Rogers Forthcoming US-Soviet Union summit 10 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -The President’s presence -Kissinger -Rogers -Rogers’s forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin -The President’s role -Rogers -The President’s previous meeting with Rogers -Rogers’s role during summit -Trade and grain discussions -Cabinet members’ desire to participate in summit -Earl L. Butz’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union -Trade and grain discussions -Peter G. Peterson -Middle East -The President’s role -SALT -Middle East -European Security Conference -Middle East -Rogers -European Security Conference -Rogers’s submission of paper -Rogers’s possible talks with Andrei A. Gromyko -State Department -SALT -Rogers -JCS -Laird -The President’s view -Soviet goals -Southeast Asia -PRC -Gromyko -South Asia -Rogers -Grain -Environment -Space -Science cooperation -European Security Conference -Dobrynin 11 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Location -Rogers ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11 [National Security] [Duration: 19s ] SOVIET UNION END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11 ****************************************************************************** -Advance for summit -Ronald H. Walker Reelection of the President -Personal papers -New government -The President’s talk with Kissinger, March 8, 1972 -Edward M. Kennedy -Chou En-lai -Edmund S. Muskie -Hubert H. Humphrey -Taiwan -Asia -Arms control -Chou En-lai -Soviets -India -The President’s view -Need for Soviet perspective -Rogers Foreign policy -Need to understand motives of opposition -Whittaker Chambers -Talk with the President at Pipe Creek Farm 12 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Alger Hiss -Robert A. Taft, Sr. -Korea -The President’s view as a Congressman -The President’s talk with Chambers -Communists -Japan -Korea -Dean G. Acheson -Vietnam War -Strait of Malacca -National Security Council [NSC] meetings -Gen. George A. Lincoln -Agnew -Compared to Patrick J. Buchanan -Laird -Richard M. Helms -PRC -Rogers’s view -Andre Malraux -Trade -US presence in Asia -The President’s position -Rogers -The President’s meeting with Chou En-lai -Rogers -Kissinger’s view -SALT -Soviet goals -Rogers’s view -Negotiations -India-Pakistan situation -PRC -Cuban submarine base [Cienfuegos] State Department -Foreign Service -The President’s possible meeting with U. Alexis Johnson -Appropriations -Advisory role -Jurisdiction question -Harry S. Truman 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -The President’s view -Acheson -Bureaucracy -Dwight D. Eisenhower -Comments on using opponent’s perspective -NSC meetings -Robert (“Bobby”) Cutler -John Foster Dulles -The President’s previous defense -Advisors’ role -Bureaucracy compared with the President -Secretary of State -Possible change -Bureaucracy -Example of Attorney General -Mitchell -Appointments -Civil Rights Division -Legal aid -Kissinger’s view -Josef V. Stalin -Purges -Timing -Election -Inauguration -Kissinger’s view -Eisenhower administration -Deputy Assistant Secretary Richard T. Davies -Testimony before the House -Greece -Yugoslavia -Romania -New Secretary of State -Chad -Rogers -The President’s view -Press -The President -Herbert Block [Herblock] cartoons -Loyalty -Press -Steward Alsop 14 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Washington Star article -John N. Irwin, II -PRC trip -Mao Tse-tung meeting with the President -Life -Chou En-lai -Influence -Kissinger’s view -Chinese television -Newsweek -Visits by heads of state -Location of host head of state -News summary -Unknown Chinese professor [Liu?] -Article in Newsweek -Pham Van Dong -Reception at airport -Red Guard -Politburo -Reception -Nicolae Ceausescu The PRC trip -News summary -Osborne article -Ronald L. Ziegler -William F. Buckley, Jr., Osborne, Sidey -Kissinger’s view -Forthcoming Soviet trip -Television coverage -Kissinger’s view -Haldeman -Specials -Chinese -The President’s image -Editorials -Newspapers -Life -Tone -Shanghai Communique -Public opinion of the President -Haldeman at Ford’s Theatre 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Talk with Father Gilbert V. Hartke -Message from Giovanni Battista Motini [Pope Paul VI] -Catholic Church -Call to Woods -The PRC trip -Hartke’s view -Letters to Kissinger -John K. Fairbanks’s comments -Knowledge of the PRC -Buckley -Forthcoming Soviet trip -National Review -Communism -Peking against Moscow -The PRC trip -Sidey Foreign policy -Rogers’s possible trips -Poland -Yugoslavia -Romania -Poland -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Soviets -Poland -The President’s meeting with Dobrynin -Soviet summit -Rogers -Communique -Drafting -Chou En-lai -Trade -Space -Environment -European Security Conference -Trade -The President’s memorandum -Position papers -Trade -The NSC system -Meeting 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Agnew -The President -Rogers’s negotiations -Forthcoming paper from NSC working group -Kissinger’s comparison paper -The President’s approval -Peterson -Peter M. Flanigan -Treasury Department -State Department -Middle East comparison to trade issue -Trade -Peterson and Flanigan -Dobrynin -State Department negotiations -Flanigan -Basic preparation -The President’s view -Rogers’s negotiations -NSC position papers -Middle East -SALT negotiations -European Security Conference -Middle East -Dobrynin meeting -Rogers compared with the President -Chinese -Mao Tse-tung conversation with the President -Kissinger’s view -The President -Mao Tse-tung -The President’s reelection -Chinese compared to the Soviets -Soviet summit -Rogers -European Security Conference -Middle East -Golda Meir -SALT -European Security Conference -Rogers’s role compared with Kissinger’s role -PRC 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Haldeman’s view -Gromyko, Aleksei N. Kosygin, Leonid I. Brezhnev -European Security Conference -Middle East -SALT -European Security Conference -Dobrynin’s meeting with Rogers -NSC -Rogers’s reports -Memoranda of conversation -SALT -Middle East -Position of the US -Rogers -Kissinger’s view -Richardson -Rogers’s possible position -Dulles and Eisenhower example -PRC trip -Rogers’s report to Congressional leaders -Dobrynin -Rogers’s work during the PRC trip -The PRC trip -State Department -Shanghai Communique -Washington Star article -Leaks -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III -Under Secretary -Washington Star -George Sherman’s article -Colson -Irwin -Bureaucracy -Joseph C. Kraft -Stanley Karnow -Washington Star -Sherman’s possible meeting with Kissinger -Washington Post -Kraft -Sherman -Columns 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Marvin L. Kalb interview of Kissinger -Ziegler -The President’s view -Questions to expect -Shanghai Communique -State Department -Prime time coverage -Networks -National Broadcasting Company [NBC] -Columbia Broadcasting System[CBS] -Subjects -News summary -Ziegler -Haldeman’s view -Positives -Negatives -Senate Foreign Relations Committee -J. William Fulbright -Call to Kissinger -Blair House -State Department -Shanghai Communique -The President’s meeting with Chou En-lai -The President’s image -Plans for trip -State Department -Warsaw -Prime time audience -Press conference comparison -Shanghai Communique -Questions -PRC, Soviet Union, US -Plans for trip -Herbert G. Klein -Ziegler -Timing of interview -Shanghai Communique -The President -Rogers -Kissinger’s view -Prime time -Reasons for interview 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Kalb -The President’s view -Compared to Howard K. Smith -Compared to Dan Rather -Smith -Foreign policy -The President -Timing -Foreign policy discussion -PRC -Soviets -Kissinger’s story -JCS -Questions -Decisions -Preparations for meetings -Rogers -Leaders meeting -Kissinger’s comments -The President’s guidance -Dobrynin -Forthcoming Soviet trip -Memoranda -Preparations -The President’s view -Election -Ziegler -Questions -Sherman story -Decisions by the President -Rogers and Irwin -National television -Kissinger and Foreign Service officers -Marshall Green -Networks -CBS -The President’s view -PRC trip -American Broadcasting Company [ABC] -NBC -John W. Chancellor -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr. 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Rather -News summary -The PRC trip -Cambodia -The New Republic -Ziegler -Sidey -State Department -ITT -Shanghai Communique -Rogers -Berlin Agreement -Announcement, March 10, 1972 -PRC -Michael J. Mansfield -House leaders -Change in public viewpoint -Art Buchwald -Agnew -The President’s accomplishments -Soviet summit -PRC -Another trip -Rogers’s possible foreign trips -Yugoslavia -Romania -Poland -Press -Yugoslavia -Romania -Poland -Political impact of visit -Iran -Soviet summit -Eastern European countries -Czechoslovakia -Poland -Iran -Pope Paul VI -Iran -Rogers’s possible participation -NATO 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Pope Paul VI -Italy Ambassadorships The President left at an unknown time after 10:09 am. Rogers -Possible replacement -Mitchell -Connally -Kissinger’s view -Soviet summit The President returned at an unknown time before 11:50 am. Ambassadorships -West Germany -Martin J. Hillenbrand -Australia -Adm. Horacio Rivero, Jr. -Background Woods entered at 11:50 am. ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 14m 20s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16 ****************************************************************************** Woods left at 12:02 pm. Ambassadorships -Rivero 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Puerto Rico Appointments -Possible replacement as Secretary of Defense -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. -Laird -The President’s view -Chief of Staff of the Army -Alexander M. Haig, Jr. -Vice Chief of Staff -Kissinger’s view -Laos -[First name unknown] Davidson [?] -Europe -Andrew J. Goodpaster -Supreme Allied Commander, Europe [NATO] [SACEUR] -US forces in Europe -Seventh Army -Haig Ambassadorships -Rivero -Australia -Spain -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr. -Possible conflict of interest -Mosbacher -Portugal -Flanigan’s view -Chief of Protocol -Guatemala -Caribbean -Jamaican Prime Minister [Michael Manley] -Nationalization of bauxite industry -Vincent W. de Roulet -Australia -Rivero -Portugal -George W. Anderson, Jr. -Sixth Fleet Appointments 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Army -[First name unknown] Davidson -United Nations [UN] -Jerome H. Holland Ambassadorships -Sweden -Lloyd Miller -Australia -Australia [?] -Wiley Buchanan -Andrew F. Brimmer -Federal Reserve Board [FRB] -Unknown person -Florida -Brimmer compared to Buchanan -Portugal -Buchanan -Rivero -Buchanan -The President’s view -Rivero -Finland -Ability to speak Spanish and Portuguese -Buchanan -Emory C. Swank -Cambodia -Ceylon [Sri Lanka] -Kissinger’s view -Cambodia -Charles S. Whitehouse -Nicaragua -Iran -Joseph S. Farland -Rogers -Flanigan -The President’s view -Farland -Kissinger’s view -The President’s view The President’s schedule 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Unknown man -Meeting -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM] -The President’s view -Jack N. Anderson papers -Kissinger’s view -Rogers -Meeting with Pope Paul VI -Example of Romanian foreign minister -Reasons for not meeting -Foreign policy -Domestic policy -Busing -Social Security -Welfare reform -Pensions -Kissinger’s schedule -California -Rogers -Kissinger’s schedule -Forthcoming dinner for Nihat Erim -Forthcoming interview with Kalb -Dobrynin meeting -Senate Foreign Relations Committee -House Foreign Affairs Committee -Forthcoming trip to Japan -California -Gridiron dinner -Kissinger -The President’s forthcoming trip to Canada -Organization of American States [OAS] meeting -Timing -Ontario -Ottawa Kissinger’s schedule -Japan -Paris -Japan -Eisaku Sato -Paris talks compared to Japan -Paris talks 25 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -European Conference -Brussels -Vietnam -Troop announcement -Timing -Canada -Laird -Brussels -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Rogers -Joseph M. Luns -European relations -Kissinger’s talk with Luns -NATO -David M. Kennedy -Connally -Soviet Union -PRC Kissinger left at 12:27 pm. Kissinger’s schedule -NATO -Rogers -Relations with Kissinger -Luns Connally -George P. Shultz’s view -Politics -Issues -Polls -Unemployment benefits -Administration programs -Elderly -Spending -Inflation -Connally -Domestic issues -Haldeman’s view -Connally’s background -John F. Kennedy 26 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Texas -Lyndon B. Johnson -Democrat -Press -Compared to the President The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 12:31 pm. [Conversation No. 681-2C] [See Conversation No. 21-28] [End of telephone conversation] Connally -Politician as an advisor -Haldeman The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox between 12:31 pm and 12:34 pm. [Conversation No. 681-2D] [See Conversation No. 21-29; two items have been withdrawn from the conversation] [End of telephone conversation] ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 24 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 54s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 24 ****************************************************************************** Agnew’s schedule -California Republicans 27 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Ronald W. Reagan The President’s schedule -Gridiron dinner -Edgar Allen Poe -Erim dinner -Klein -Kissinger -Rogers -The President’s forthcoming trip to California -Haldeman’s view -Agnew -Toast -Democratic candidates presence -“Women’s Lib” -Invitations to women -Mrs. Nixon’s presence -Julie Nixon Eisenhower -Tricia Nixon Cox -The President’s view -Agnew Rogers -Kissinger -Trade -SALT -Dobrynin meeting -Forthcoming US-Soviet summit -Rogers’s role -Kissinger -PRC Kissinger -Press appearances -Scali -Ziegler -Talk with Haldeman -Backgrounder -Foreign policy -Characteristics of leaders -The President -Mao Tse-tung 28 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) -Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle -Winston S. Churchill -Franklin D. Roosevelt Buchanan -Something for him -Meeting with the President ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 23 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 57s ] Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:34 pm. END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 23 ****************************************************************************** The President, Haldeman, and Sanchez left at 12:50 pm.