Conversation No. 683-7

Date: March 13, 1972
Time: 12:18 pm - 1:07 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald S. Berman and Leonard Garment; the White House photographer
was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Photographs
          -The President and Berman

     Garment
         -Public relations

     National Endowment for the Humanities [NEH]
          -Berman
          -Conservative publications
          -Subsidized art
               -Peking
          -Government control
          -Constituency
               -Status conscious compared to moderate individuals
                     -Example of House of Representatives
                          -Middle class attachments
                          -Midwest
                          -Respect for education
                                -Art compared to humanities
          -Programs
               -Professionals
               -Public
                     -Television
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. Aug-01)
                                                            Conv. No. 683-7 (cont.)

     -Good cinema art
           -Example of Laurence Olivier
                -Henry V
                -Hamlet
           -The President’s view
                -Biographical
                -Historical
                -Midnight Cowboy
           -Olivier
                -William Shakespeare
                      -Elizabethan England
                            -Example of Elizabeth Regina
                                  -British Broadcasting Corporation [BBC]
           -Movies in the White House
           -Definition of humanities
                -Movies
                -Radio
                -History
                -Literature
                -Biography
           -Comedies
                -Shakespeare
           -Drama in the US
                -Ideological bias
           -Biographies
                -Documentaries
                      -Orville and Wilbur Wright
                            -Portrayal of US spirit
                      -Lorraine Hansberry
                            -A Raisin in the Sun
                            -The Young, the Gifted, and the Black
           -Sports
                -Brian’s Song
                      -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
                      -Brian Piccolo
                      -Gale Sayers
                      -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                      -Race relations
-Audiences
     -Novels
     -Biographies
-Education
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Aug-01)
                                                          Conv. No. 683-7 (cont.)

      -H.G. Wells
            -Writings on the French Revolution
                 -Thomas Carlyle
                 -Jean Paul Marat
                 -Georges Danton
                 -Maximilien Robespierre
                 -Marat
                       -Benjamin Franklin
                       -Charlotte Corday
                 -Characteristics of revolutionary leaders
      -American-British history
      -Russian Revolution
      -French Revolution
            -Napoleon Bonaparte
                 -Waterloo
-Motion pictures
      -Patton
            -George S. Patton
            -Dwight D. Eisenhower
            -Bernard L. Montgomery
            -Omar N. Bradley
      -French Revolution
            -Edmund Burke
            -Carlyle
            -Marat, Danton, Robespierre
            -American Revolution compared to French Revolution
            -Danton
            -Robespierre
            -Present revolutionary practices
            -Wells
      -Musicals
      -Government sponsored
            -Freedom and diversity
      -Commercial
-Intellectuals
-Movies
      -French Revolution
-Writers
      -Burke
      -Carlyle
      -Wells
            -French Revolution compared to World War I
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Aug-01)
                                                                    Conv. No. 683-7 (cont.)

                            -Battle of the Somme, 1916
                            -World War I compared to World War II
                            -Deaths
                                  -Bastille
                -Revisionist historians
                      -French Revolution
                            -Intellectuals
                -The President’s talk with Georges J.R. Pompidou
                      -Indira Gandhi’s previous trip to France
                      -Golda Meir compared to Gandhi
          -Intellectuals
                -Plato’s Republic
                      -Shoemakers compared to professors
                -Universities
                -Academic freedom

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm.

     Books
         -Residence
              -Wells
         -Library
              -Russell A. Kirk

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:07 pm.

     Intellectuals
           -Berman’s book
                 -Berkeley revolution
                      -Vietnam War
                      -Takeover of universities
                      -Unrest on campuses
                            -Cambodia
                            -Kent State
                            -Separate dorms
                      -Tear down traditional institutions
                            -Family
                            -Community
                            -Corporation
           -The President’s view
                 -Marxists compared to radicals
           -Education
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Aug-01)
                                                                       Conv. No. 683-7 (cont.)

                -Chinese compared to Americans
                     -Parents dedication
                -US
                     -Desire for education
                          -Blacks
                                 -Busing
                                      -Inferior education
                          -Trade groups
                          -Virtue

Sanchez entered and left at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 1:07 pm.

                     -American attitude compared to British and Soviet attitudes
                         -Winston S. Churchill
                     -Middle class
                         -American ideal

     Writers
          -The President reading from a book
               -Carlyle on Marat
          -Painting
          -Books
               -List of ten best suggested by Berman
                     -History
                           -British
                           -Revolution
                           -Men
          -Writers
               -Carlyle
                     -The President reading from a book
                           -French Revolution
               -French Revolution
                     -Robespierre
               -The President reading from a book
               -Burke

     NEH
           -Berman
                 -Recommendations to the President
                       -Books
           -Movies
           -Intellectuals
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. Aug-01)
                                                               Conv. No. 683-7 (cont.)

                   -Sidney Hook
                   -Vietnam War
             -Individuals requesting employment
             -The administration
                   -Henry A. Kissinger
                        -Daniel P. Moynihan
             -Berman
                   -San Diego
                        -University of California
                              -Herbert Marcuse
                              -Production of intellectuals
             -Education
                   -Vietnam
                   -West Germany
                        -Garment’s recent visit
                        -University system
                              -Berlin
                              -Professors and students
                   -Japanese system
                        -Chinese
                        -Foreign policy ramifications
                   -US domestic stability
                   -Germany
                   -Japanese studies
                        -Possible efforts by NEH

     Gifts
             -Cufflinks

     Garment

     Lawyers

Berman and Garment left at 1:07 pm.