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Conversation: 685-002

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Start Date: 14-Mar-1972 9:03 AM

End Date: 14-Mar-1972 9:51 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:11:37

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:59:37

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NARA Description:

On March 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:03 am to 9:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 685-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 685-2

Date: March 14, 1972
Time: 9:03 am - 9:51 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger..

       Kissinger's schedule
             -New York
                   -People's Republic of China [PRC] ambassador
                   -Wall Street Journal
                         -Lunch

       Busing

       Foreign policy
             -PRC
                   -Arthur K. Watson
                   -Relations with the US
                          -Publicity
                          -US critics
                                -Kissinger’s note
                   -Kissinger’s meetings
                          -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                          -Barry M. Goldwater
                          -Backgrounder
                                -Press
                          -Ronald W. Reagan and Goldwater
                          -James L. Buckley
             -Bangladesh
                   -India
                                  3

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

      -Possible recognition by the US
            -PRC
            -Timing
                  -California
      -Indian troops
      -Recognition
            -State Department
-PRC initiative
      -Japanese
      -Indians
      -Soviets
      -Statement
-Marshall Green
      -Schedule
      -Performance
      -Cambodia
            -Emory C. Swank
      -PRC
            -Press
-Kissinger’s forthcoming meetings
      -New York Times
      -Wall Street Journal
      -New York Tiimes
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
-Cambodia
      -Group from Harvard University
            -Meeting with Kissinger
            -Unknown man
                  -Vietnam
                        -As campus issue
                        -Volunteer force
 -Vietnam
      -Democratic National Convention
      -Nguyen Van Thieu
      -Melvin R. Laird
      -Announcement
            -Prisoners of war [POWs]
      -Thieu
      -Continued US presence
            -World
            -Duration
                                 4

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

                   -Air power
       -Continued announcement
             -Withdrawal of US forces
             -Timing of additional statement
                   -Forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
                   -Democratic National Convention
                         -Troops
                         -Bombings
       -Volunteer army
             -Deadline
       -Combat forces
             -News summary
             -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
       -Negotiations
             -Forthcoming presidential election
                   -Volunteer army
                   -Thieu
       -Kissinger's possible trip to South Vietnam
             -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
       -Thieu
             -Announcement
                   -Democrats
       -Negotiations
-Forthcoming US-Soviet Summit
-PRC
-Political Issue
       -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] comparison
       -Campaign
-PRC
       -Image of the President
       -Shanghai Communiqué
             -Winston Lord
             -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
             -International comments
                   -William P. Rogers
                         -Cabinet Meeting
                   -[George R.S. Baring] Earl of Cromer
                   -West German Ambassador to the US
                   -World image
                         -Change
 -Forthcoming US-Soviet Summit
                                          5

                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

                -Image of the President
                     -Vietnam
          -Vietnam
                -Thieu
                -Reserve force
                     -POWs
                            -George S. McGovern
                            -Hubert H. Humphrey
                     -Survival of the Thieu Government
                -POWs
                     -Withdrawal
                            -Exchange for bombing halt
                     -Retainment of volunteer force
                     -Thieu
                -1972 election
                     -Bombings
                     -Offensive
                            -Kissinger’s view
                            -[Forename unknown] Thompson
                     -The President's image
                            -Leadership
                -North Vietnamese leaders
                     -The President’s view
                            -North Koreans
                -Domestic opposition to Administration
                -Casualties
                     -Percentages compared to previous years
                -Memorandum from the President
                     -Haig
                     -Laird
                     -Forthcoming Soviet trip
                     -Announcement
                            -Withdrawal rate
                                  -Timing
                            -Thieu
                            -Timing
                     -Haig’s possible trip to South Vietnam
                -Democratic National Convention


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                                             6

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 12s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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      Nelson A. Rockefeller
            -Possibility as Secretary of State
                 -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                 -Relationship with Kissinger
                 -[David] Kenneth Rush as Secretary of State
                        -Bonn
                        -Frederic V. Malek
                              -Under Secretary
            -Secretary of Defense


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 11s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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      Agnew
           -Finances
           -Rockefeller
                -Compared to the President
           -Financial arrangement
           -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
           -Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra
                                        7

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

      -Secretary of Defense
      -Chances as President
           -Kissinger’s view
      -Secretary of Defense
      -Movement from Vice President to Secretary of Defense
           -Compared to the President as Vice President
                 -John Foster Dulles
      -Nomination for Vice President
      -Decision

Foreign policy
      -Kissinger's schedule
            -Visit with PRC Ambassador
                  -Watson
                  -Soviets
                        -Briefing
                  -Bangladesh
                  -Gerald R. Ford’s and Michael J. Mansfield’s forthcoming trips to the
                           PRC
                  -Vietnam
                         -Mao Tse-tung
                         -North Vietnamese
                              -Shanghai Communiqué
                                    -US bombing
                                    -Fixed withdrawal date
                                    -Thieu
                              -Television coverage of the President
                  -North Koreans
                        -Chou En-Lai
                        -Nicolae Ceausescu
            -Paris meetings between the US and North Vietnam
                  -Le Duc Tho
                  -Timing
            -Vacation
                  -Acapulco
                  -Mexican Foreign Minister
                        -Accommodations
      -Announcements of trips
            -Luis Echeverria Alvarez’s forthcoming visit to the US
            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Canada
                                             8

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 685-2 (cont.)

       Rockefeller
            -Talk with Kissinger

       Ronald W. Reagan
            -Defense Department
            -Administrative experience
                 -Compared to Agnew

       Agnew

Kissinger left at 9:51 am.