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Start Date: 21-Mar-1972 1:00 PM

End Date: 21-Mar-1972 2:15 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.White House operatorShultz, George P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:02:37

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:33:23

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690b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On March 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House operator, George P. Shultz, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:00 pm to 2:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 690-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 690-11

Date: March 21, 1972
Time: 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler; the conversation began in progress.

     The President's schedule
          -Gridiron dinner
               -Decision
          -Wage Board
               -Announcement
                      -George Meany

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 1:00 and 1:03
pm.

[Conversation No. 690-11A]

[See Conversation No. 21-124]

[End of telephone conversation]


     The President's forthcoming press conference
          -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
          -Television

     Drugs
          -Possible national broadcast by the President
               -Penalties for drug dealers

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 1:00 and 1:03
pm.

[Conversation No. 690-11B]
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)



[See Conversation No. 21-125]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Drugs
          -Penalties for drug dealers
               -Death penalty
          -National broadcast by the President
               -Prime time
               -Statement to the American public
               -Bill signing
               -Cooperation of the American public

The President talked with George P. Shultz between 1:03 and 1:09 pm.

[Conversation No. 690-11C]

[See Conversation No. 21-126]

[End of telephone conversation]

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 1:10 pm.

     Economy
         -Arthur F. Burns
              -Interest rate increase
                    -Secretary of the Treasury
                    -Administration policy
                          -Possible question during Ziegler’s press briefing
                                 -John B. Connally
                                      -Forthcoming call from Ziegler
                                 -Timing
                                      -Unions
                                           -Interest rates
                                           -Food prices

     The President's schedule
          -Gridiron dinner
               -Edgar Allan Poe
               -[Warren E. Burger]
               -Cabinet officers
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

                 -White House staff
                      -Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
                      -Peter M. Flanigan's schedule
                 -The President's attendance
                      -Ziegler's statement

     The President’s forthcoming press conference
          -Office
                -Timing
          -ITT questions
                -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
                -Television compared to office
                      -Haldeman's view
          -Television
                -Timing
                -Number of appearances
          -Radio
                -Microphones

Ziegler left at 1:16 pm.

     Julius Klein
           -Note to Haldeman
                -Contents
                     -Richard J. Daley
                          -The President’s busing speech

     Drugs
          -Talk with Ziegler
          -National television broadcast
               -Bill signing
               -Laws
                     -Enforcement
                           -More penalties
               -Rehabilitation of addicts
               -Legalization of marijuana
               -Heroin
               -Haldeman's view
                     -“Fireside chat”
               -Timing
                     -California
               -Writer
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. 10/06)
                                                       Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

           -Patrick J. Buchanan
                 -Outline from John D. Ehrlichman
-Pamphlet
      -Ehrlichman
      -Quote from the President
            -Wording
                  -The President’s view
                  -Haldeman’s view
                        -Addicts
                        -Pushers
                        -Victims
                        -Commission
-Law enforcement
-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
      -Addicts
-Marijuana
-Heroin
-Lsyergic acid diethylamide [LSD]
-Children
-Example of mental illness
      -James A. Rhodes
            -Comments to the President in 1968
                  -Funding for mental health centers
                  -Blacks
      -Mental institutions
      -Psychiatry
            -The President’s view
-Supply
      -Efforts by Turkey
-Pushers
-Education of children
-Law enforcement
      -Pushers
            -Children
-The President’s possible speech
      -Legalizing marijuana
-Weekly announcements
      -Ehrlichman
      -Administration accomplishments
-Unknown man [Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.?]
      -Government agents
            -Number
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

          -Bureaucrats
          -Instructions
     -The President's trip to New York
          -News coverage
                -National networks
                      -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                -Local
                -Airport
          -Advantages of trips
     -The President’s possible speech
          -Live audience
     -Radio message

Stockholm Conference [World Conference on the Human Environment]
     -The President’s memorandum to William P. Rogers
     -Delegation
          -Russell E. Train
          -Cabinet officers
          -Rogers

Ambassadorships
    -Flanigan
    -Charge d’affairs
    -West Germany
    -Pakistan
          -Joseph S. Farland
               -Recommendation
                     -Robert G. Neumann
                           -Kissinger
                           -Afghanistan
    -Finland
          -Arthur Brimmer
               -Jerome Holland
                     -Sweden
    -Wiley Buchanan
          -Haldeman's talk with John N. Mitchell and Maurice H. Stans
               -Contributions
                     -Stans
    -Kissinger and Rogers
          -Emory C. Swank
               -Ceylon [Sri Lanka]
                     -Charles S, Whitehouse
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

                                  -Vietnam
                                       -Ellsworth F. Bunker
           -Cambodia
                -Adm. Horacio Rivero
           -Spain
                -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
                -Rivero
           -United Nations [UN]
                -Ralph Bunche
                     -Richard F. Pederson
                     -William B. Buffum
                           -Lebanon
                     -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                     -F. Bradford Morse
                     -Moynihan
                           -Possible Ambassador to the UN
                     -Pederson
                           -Kissinger
                           -Rogers


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     George Meany
         -George P. Shultz
              -Previous breakfast meeting with the President
              -Augusta, Georgia
                    -Mamie G.D. Eisenhower

Ziegler entered at 1:36 pm.

     Economy
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

           -Burns
                -Ziegler's talks with Connally, Shultz and Herbert Stein
                     -Connally's suggestions
                            -Intermediate or long-term loans
                                  -Interest rates
                                  -Wage-Price Board
                                  -Mortgage rates

Ziegler left at 1:37 pm.

     Foreign policy
          -Television broadcast with Kissinger
               -Marvin L. Kalb and William Small
                     -Talk with Ziegler
                          -Length
                          -Time
                          -Date
                          -The People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
                          -Three cornered foreign policy
                          -Middle East
                          -Kalb
                          -Kissinger
                                -The President
                                -Backgrounder
               -The President's instructions
                     -Possible appearances by Kissinger
                          -Chicago
                     -Forthcoming Soviet trip
                     -The PRC trip
               -Coverage of the PRC trip
               -Kissinger
                     -The President’s reelection
                     -Schedule

     The President's schedule
          -The President's possible meeting with Frank Fitzsimmons
               -Meany
                      -Breakfast
               -Wage Board
               -Oval Office
               -Charles W. Colson
               -Meany
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

                    -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations
                          [AFL-CIO]
         -National Alliance of Businessmen
              -Reception
              -Jobs for veterans
              -Gordon M. Metcalf
              -Handshaking
              -Jobs produced
                    -Blacks
                    -Veterans
              -Dinner
              -Board meeting
              -Reception for regional chairmen
              -Timing
              -Metcalf
                    -Haldeman’s view
                    -Retail enterprise
                    -Public interest
                         -Donald McI. Kendall



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    Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
         -Gridiron dinner
               -The President’s view

    The President’s forthcoming press conference
         -Timing
         -Television
              -Use
                     -Lyndon B. Johnson
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                                Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)




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    Polls
            -[Forename unknown] Denham
                 -The PRC trip
            -Louis P. Harris
                 -Percentages
            -Denham
            -George H. Gallup
                 -White House
                 -Harris
                       -Edmund S. Muskie
                             -Popularity

    The President’s forthcoming press conference
         -Timing
         -Radio
         -Television
              -Timing

    International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
          -Effect on polls
          -Effect on American public opinion
               -Ten percent
                     -Busing

    [No conversation]

    Advisory committees
         -Kissinger
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

     -State Department
     -Usefulness
           -Raymond P. Shafer
           -Laurence S. Rockefeller

Haldeman's schedule
     -John R. (“Tex”) McCrary
          -Projects
          -Pay
          -Clients
          -Memorandum to Haldeman

Russell A. Kirk
     -Book, A Program for Conservatives
           -Copies
           -The Conservative Mind
           -Liberal approach
           -Ten copies
                -Ehrlichman
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.

Drugs
     -Heroin
           -Maintenance
                 -Crime prevention
                 -Euthanasia
                      -Individuals viewpoint
     -Jaffe
           -American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU]
                 -Vietnam
                      -Urinalysis
     -Penalties
           -Iran
                 -Habeas corpus

Book by Kirk
    -Connally
    -Ehrlichman
    -Connally
    -Shultz
    -Elliot L. Richardson
    -Leonard Garment
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

     -Price
     -Garment
     -Buchanan

The President's schedule
     -Possible meeting with Kirk
     -Meetings with Congressmen

White House church services
     -Fred B. Rhodes
          -World Baptist Alliance
          -The President’s view
     -Preachers

Arrival ceremonies
     -Washington, DC
           -Crowds
           -Compared to Los Angeles
           -Compared to New York City
           -Foreign guests
     -Andrews Air Force Base
     -Blacks
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower
     -The President’s experiences as Vice President
           -National Airport
           -Arrival of Winston S. Churchill
     -Washington, DC streets
     -National Airport

Drugs

Soviet Union trip
     -Possible stop in Turkey
          -Istanbul
     -Kissinger
          -Iran
          -Istanbul
     -Poland
     -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meeting

The President's forthcoming trip to Florida
     -Meeting with Marshall Green
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

                 -Timing
                      -Wage and price issue


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    Drugs
         -Poll
              -Small sample
              -Death penalty for traffickers
                    -Heroin
                    -Drug addiction
                    -Interstate law
                          -Compared to Charles A. Lindbergh law
                                 -Kidnapping
                    -American public opinion
                    -Congress
                    -Supreme Court
                          -California
              -Life imprisonment without parole
                    -Ehrlichman
              -Death penalty compared to life imprisonment
         -Bureaucrats
              -Credit
              -Offices
              -Departments

    Prices's schedule

    George H.W. Bush
         -Forthcoming speeches
              -Talking points
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 690-11 (cont.)

                     -Cabinet
                     -UN
                     -The President’s foreign policy leadership
                          -World reaction to the PRC trip

     The PRC trip
          -Possible public talks
               -Ziegler
               -Haldeman
               -Dwight L. Chapin
               -Importance
          -Kissinger's possible television appearance
               -Kalb
          -John A. Scali
               -Speech
                     -Luncheon
                     -Contents
                           -Testimonial for the President
          -Kissinger
          -Herbert G. Klein
               -Detroit
                     -Talk show
                           -Chapin
                                 -Chou En-lai quote

     The President’s schedule
          -General Advisory Committee on Arms Control and Disarmament
          -Gerard C. Smith
          -Manea Manescu
          -Shafer
          -Beginning of administration
               -Meetings
                      -Times

Haldeman left at 2:15 pm.
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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