Nixon & Woods on State dinners and Guest lists

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I had, when I was a congressman, one of the first entities that I ever met in Washington was the Robertsville Ravens.

I don't know whether they're having any guests or the O.A.

agenda, but they're just some badasses that are coming.

Well, mostly those people, but we did have a Rockefeller on, I guess, or somebody who had Mrs. Bacon.

Mrs. Bacon could be added.

And they also include Rockefeller on the Mexican data.

I think we ought to be able to run on that, you know.

It would be a nice time to have him and his wife do an interview.

I think we ought to have him pinched.

And I think we ought to have him on.

Would you like to get in on that?

Oh, yes.

Yes, Mrs. Bacon.

And get us out of it.

And when you go to you and call her and say that the president would call on you to be back there.

Well, you know, she wants him to get that medal, which is still kicking off.

Well, I'm going to give him the medal.

At that time.

I am.

I have to pull the ruler.

The suggestion is here that it will be done on that night, and I certainly know it's it.

I think if they have nothing else to do with the OAS, they'd like to see the Medal of Freedom given to them by a great, great, great artist.

You can say it, but don't tell her.

No, I can say it internally.

He is going to get the Medal of Freedom, but that's only for your own information.

And don't indicate it's going to be done that way.

Don't tell her.

I would tell her he's going to be here.

He's going to be behind.

Another one that I think would be good to have is I think the old place where the grandchild was killed and so forth.

And by the time they're chasing his wife, that's a personal thing.

We've had the other dentists, you know, that's.

We had to change it to the church.

We had to change it to the church, which is not quite the same.

We had Ron and his wife, but it was to a Christmas reception.

Quite different.

Yes, quite different.

And obviously, he was on the Rockefeller trip.

Yes.

And so that's that.

The kids probably ought to be invited.

Great, great, great, great.

That's marvelous.

Right.

And then another thing on that one, too, we'll have some after-dinner things.

People are on the...

I'd be glad if I could.

I'd be easier.

None of it would come to a happy end or anything.

I think we'll try to have, like, a little kiss of that energy.

Right.

And I don't know what else to do.

I don't know what else to do.

Well, I don't think we can stop it too much.

There aren't really that many guilty people.

Not really, but on the other hand, the lack of caregivers gets more and more impossible.

I'd rather have, of course, the safest thing is to have a single witness, but I don't know if you've got an aide.

Well, we might consider this time to have the...

The Army Corps is just fantastic.

They're so good.

I've seen them in West Ponder, Navy, Naval Academy.

I don't know if they're that good.

I don't know whether they're leading the service academy or not.

One thing, I am very, very much a stickler.

I don't like entertainment unless it's the best.

I mean, we have many friends, you know, and they're just a little below the second level.

And if we had something every month, then you can have people that are second.

But like her, I mean, everything for her is very good because she is the best at her time.

And, you know, I mean, that's why we're here.

I know, for example, that Ben Radin's old apartment is very dirty because we don't have his wife sitting on top of that.

Oh, yeah, it does not, yeah.

Or else I heard her at the Met.

She's here if I'm on her.

She's her voice in her entire company.

I can't have her down here for that matter.

It's not fair to her, is it?

No.

She's washing the hands and fingers of these people.

I'm trying to find...

Well, they'll go around doing country.

We invited them for dinner a couple of times, and they've been on tour.

Well, if they're going to try, they'll try right away.

They wait until later a couple of times to try.

I wonder if you could check on that to see, you know, they do that over in East Lane and see what they're... Yeah, they have to wait to get it okayed over here, but I'll tell Lucy to go ahead and... Well, ask Lucy, ask Lucy, the goody out of mine, to do that.

And then, uh...

I don't want to have any more of those fairies dancing around.

No, I know, but they need to get a not-so-fat to get anybody who's... Well, just see, I'd like to try to start a Catholic church, for example, and get a gay, you know, good-natured, great-artist, or a nice saint.

I do.

I think that would be very good.

Well, it was a nice dinner last night for all those people.

All good.

This is longer than 88.

It was mostly based on 10-person beers.

Serious?

Six times last night.

It was a good group, you know.

It was a good group.

It's something I want to do very often.

I don't seem to know how people, well, I guess I used to do it, remember?

We used to go out to those with vice president gears.

But I don't think I could do a dinner with my president.

responsible there's more than once a week well you have too many responses well i did for example the dinner last the night before and i did the one last night and uh and frankly uh you know many people go off the dinner some of our people take some of the dumbest invitations but you see the problem i have is that

I can't even go to a dinner without being on stage.

They expect me to say something bright or churchy or this or that.

I've got to be thinking of my ghost all through the tour, and I can't talk into it.

And last night, actually, I've got to be talking to Mrs. Walker, and I've got to be talking to Mrs. Connelly, and be very bright.

And after the dinner, I've got to talk to everybody and tell them about the tour.

what we said and what we're trying to do with the world.

I think that works a little more than some have.

But nevertheless, I do make the compromise.

Mrs. Longer, if you'll make it, doesn't have anything more to do with me.

But he does...

She does very interesting things.

She has people in fatigue at 5 o'clock sometimes.

Someday, when the day is, you know, 5 o'clock, you might just, I don't know, you might just decide, you might just go over there.

It's rather fun to go over this thing.

Some people just sit and talk and laugh over a half hour and have a cup of tea or a glass of coffee.

You know, I mean, that's really fun.

It's like the great, the grand dame of the old times.

I wouldn't do it for patients.

She would invite a lot of people.

No, she didn't.

She didn't say about the presents.

You just call her that day.

I didn't call that person, apparently.

Yes.

She also had some cookies.

Yes, you could say that he might be free to come by, and that he would be the one to come.

She'd say, well, he's not going to come by himself, but would you like somebody?

You know what I mean?

I think we'd have her mind.

Yes.

I think where I had an idea, it had to be clear.

Lucy, Lucy, of course, versus Pat.

So we had dinner first and then he came in after he wanted to have an exemption.

I was pressured all through the vice president for years.

The only time that they, I guess they have never impressed me since then.

I mean, I believe you.

I've been to dinners all over the world.

I've never been impressed by one since I left the vice presidency.

Never.

We went to two innings.

That's why I, see that's why I, and I think you would rather say, not have very many cabinets and try not to repeat some people's names once in a while.

The reason you can be a good crowd together is when you have people who are coming and it is a big thrill.

Yeah.

And, and the Broadway crowd.

It changes the character.

It changes the story.

If you've got a group of there that have never been there before, they, they're thrilled.

The place you go, that's what they're all about.

It's like, you know, it's like having a, it's like having a party with the members of the press.

It is unbelievably dull and horrible because they're all supposed to be cynics.

That's right.

And they act that way.

And it's like that, and frankly, too many government people.

That's right.

Because the government people think it's their do.

And they're nice, I don't mean that, but you know what I mean.

They just aren't going to get off their hands.

No, and they're not going to show excitement because they have to be much more sophisticated than that.

Before I forget, some of these people have commented on those things, like I said, came in the same stand.

Yeah, we got quite a few people in at that.

Did you say that not the labor people came?

No.

Okay, one man was an assembly of government employees.

I don't know if that's...

I wonder if it was a question of...

I'll give you the names of them.

You checked with Colson, didn't you?

I told them.

I told them they didn't come.

I called them every day and said every one of the people had regretted it.

Yeah, you did?

All right, I'll ask them about it.

Well, they didn't come.

In my office right now, they're going to go up to the Capitol.

I think they're still there.

It's Julia Meaden, her husband, and two little girls.

They don't know what you're doing.

They didn't ask you.

Remember the red-headed television?

She used to be on that.

She's a pretty girl.

She used to be on 8,000 shows and 30 All-American type of get-all television.

Well, she's been Andrew's client.

She's married to Russ.

I don't think you know him.

You know Bud Meade, the guy from SDM.

That's the one.

You know, this is the pretty one.

You know this one too.

That's what it is.

She's here with her husband and two little girls.

She gave him a special tour.

No, she's the one that's on your backer, your list of supporters.

Why don't you go out and get the photographer to come in?

Well, is that going to hold you up tonight?

It's all right.

It won't be no problem.

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