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Start Date: 30-Mar-1972 12:47 PM

End Date: 30-Mar-1972 2:32 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Colson, Charles W.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:14:47

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:01:53

697a.mp3

697b.mp3

697c.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:47 pm to 2:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 697-029 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 697-29

Date: March 30, 1972
Time: 12:47 pm - 2:32 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Charles W. Colson.

     Schedules
          -Haldeman
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Colson
               -Workload
               -Vacation
                                           31

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

                 -Florida
                       -Reservation problems
     -Clark MacGregor
     -John D. Ehrlichman
     -Kissinger
     -Staff workload
           -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
                 -Edward M. Kennedy
     -Colson's vacation
     -White House staff
     -Kissinger
           -Health
                 -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
           -Workload
     -Colson
           -Florida
                 -The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
           -Boston
           -John B. Connally

Connally
    -Press relations
    -Donald H. Rumsfeld

Television
     -Earl L. Butz and James D. Hodgson
           -Debate
                -Meat prices
                      -Labor
                -George Meany
                      -Hugh Scott
                      -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations
                           [AFL-CIO]
                           -Patrick E. Gorman
                                 -Vietnam

Hussein ibn Talal [Hussein, King Jordan]
     -Dinner guests
          -Rose Mary Woods
          -Labor leaders
                -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                -Construction trades
                                        32

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

                -AFL-CIO
                     -Building trades presidents
                          -Church service
                -Jews

The President’s forthcoming meeting with Fitzsimmons
     -Colson
     -George P. Shultz
     -Hodgson
     -Shultz
          -Relationship with Fitzsimmons
          -West Coast situation

Pay Board
     -Fitzsimmons
           -International Brotherhood of Teamsters pay increase
           -West Coast situation
                 -Harry Bridges
     -Shultz, Connally, Colson meeting
     -Price Commission members
     -Meany
           -Confrontation with the President
                 -Television
                       -Herbert G. Klein
                            -Matzoh balls
                       -Food prices
                       -Commission members statements
           -C. Jackson Grayson, Jr.
     -House and Senate

Unions
    -Curbing power
         -Big business
              -Roger M. Blough
              -Fred J. Borch
              -Arch N. Booth
              -US Chamber of Commerce
              -National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
         -Congress
              -Busing
         -Advertising campaign
    -White House position
                                    33

                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

      -Business
            -Curbing power of unions
                  -Timing
                       -Election year
                             -Labor votes
                                  -Gerald R. Ford
                                  -1958 comparison
            -Shultz
                  -Talk with Borch
                       -General Electric [GE]
-Congressmen and Senators
-Connally
-Flanigan
-Shultz
-Colson
-Flanigan
-Peter G. Peterson
-Connally
-Flanigan
      -Sherman Adams
      -Oil business
-Connally
-Colson
-Ford
-Legislation
      -Timing
            -Meany walkout
            -Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Unknown person
-80th Congress
      -Anti-labor platform
            -Harry S. Truman's veto of Taft-Hartley Bill
      -Other issues
            -Meat prices
            -Commission
-Labor
      -Disorganization
-Shultz
-Connally
      -Possible telephone calls
-Dock strike
      -Legislation
                                        34

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)



Busing issue
     -MacGregor
           -House of Representatives
     -Michigan
           -Judge Steven J. Roth
           -Congressmen
                -Turnabout
                       -James G. O’Hara
           -Robert P. Griffin
           -Detroit News
           -Detroit Free Press
                -Knight-Ridder
                       -Miami
                       -Jews
           -Constitutional amendment
                -Martin S. Hayden
     -Democratic candidates
           -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
     -Moratorium
           -Congress
                -Democratic candidates
           -Court tests
           -Passage
                -Timing
                       -Democratic National Convention
                       -Colson's conversation with Ehrlichman
                -Lower courts
                -Supreme Court
                -Lower courts
                       -Delays
                -Supreme Court
                       -Appeal
           -Housing Act
           -Court test
                -Election
                -William H. Rehnquist
                       -Constitutional amendment
                       -Self-disqualification
                -Constitutional amendment
                       -Democratic candidates
                -White House demonstration
                                       35

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

                -Rehnquist
                -Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
                -Warren E. Burger
                -Powell
                      -Racism
                           -Richmond, Virginia
     -Constitutional amendment
          -Richard M. Scammon's analogy
                -Income tax
     -Buffalo
          -News summary
     -Boston
          -Irish Catholic community

Federal aid to parochial education
     -Possible speech at the National Catholic Educational Association [NCEA]
           convention
     -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
     -Meeting
           -Shultz's office
     -Connally
     -Wilbur D. Mills
           -Bill
                 -Compared to White House legislation
     -Domestic Council staff
           -Ehrlichman
           -Edwin L. Harper
           -Ehrlichman
           -Cole
     -Parochial schools compared to public school system
           -Religion
           -Discipline
           -Uniforms
     -Domestic Council staff
     -Views
           -The President
           -Flanigan
           -Colson
           -Connally
           -Shultz
           -Domestic Council
           -Shultz
                                         36

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

     -Catholic families
     -Domestic Council
           -Poll
                 -Catholic vote
     -Catholic communities
           -Percentage of children in parochial schools compared with total of Catholic
                 children
           -Total population in the US
                 -Percentage
     -Elliot L. Richardson
           -Public schools
     -Credibility issue
     -Report
     -Legislation
           -Mills's bill
     -Speech
           -Patrick J. Buchanan
           -Population Commission

Abortion
     -NCEA speech
           -Population Commission
                 -Recommendations
     -Politics
           -Colorado compared to Michigan
                 -Votes
                      -Blacks
                      -Support for the President from anti-abortion segment of population
           -Domestic Council
           -Sierra Club
                 -Zero population growth
                      -Support for Nixon

Book by Russell A. Kirk
    -Colson
    -Connally
    -Mrs. Joseph W. Alsop

Federal aid to parochial education
     -NCEA speech
           -The President's schedule
                 -101st Airborne
                                              37

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

                     -Camp David
                     -Easter egg roll
          -NCEA
               -Abortion issue
          -NCEA speech
               -Possible political effect
                    -Franklin D. Roosevelt
               -San Diego
                    -The President's speech
                          -Ship yard
               -Effect
               -Compared to Knights of Columbus
          -Domestic Council
               -House Resolution [HR] 1
          -Mitchell
          -Connally

     The President’s schedule


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 16m 40s ]


Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:47 pm.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:32 pm.

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:47 pm.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:32 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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     Issues
                                               38

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)

           -Parochial education
           -Busing
                -Politics
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                -Leonard Garment
           -Public image of the President

     Vietnam
          -The President’s possible visit to the 101st Airborne
          -Offensive
               -Timing
                     -Withdrawal
               -I Corps
               -US casualties
               -Bombing
               -Withdrawal

     The President's schedule
          -Press conference
               -Timing
                      -ITT
                      -Wisconsin primary
                           -Commentators
                                 -Democratic nominee
                           -Florida primary
                                 -News coverage
                           -Political questions
                      -ITT issue

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of the conversation may be found in RG
460, Box 58, pp 1-42.]

                           -Bradshaw response
                                [Forename unknown] Walker

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting
               -Fitzsimmons
                      -Health

     Colson's schedule
          -Vacation
                                              39

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 697-29 (cont.)



Haldeman and Colson left at 2:32 pm.