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Conversation: 701-002

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Start Date: 4-Apr-1972 9:05 AM

End Date: 4-Apr-1972 9:43 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.White House operatorMoorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:36:15

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:11:38

701a.mp3

701b.mp3

701c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:05 am to 9:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 701-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 701-2

Date: April 4, 1972
Time: 9:05 am - 9:43 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with John H. Chafee
               -Melvin R. Laird
               -Timing
               -The President’s previous talk with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
               -Candidacy for Senate

The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 9:05 and 9:08 am.

     [Conversation no. 701-2A]

     The President's meeting with Chafee
          -Purpose
               -Laird
               -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
               -Secretary of the Navy
               -Candidacy for Senate
          -Presence of others
               -Laird

[End of telephone conversation]
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                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)



Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:08 am.

     The President's meeting with Chafee
          -Laird's presence
               -Purpose

Butterfield left at 9:09 am.

                 -Press conference
                      -Possible location

     Vietnam
          -Laird
                -Criticism
                      -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
                      -Laird's reaction
                -Reports
                -Meeting with the President
                      -Purpose
          -Air strikes
                -Authority
                      -Possible criticism
                      -Kissinger
                            -Moorer’s opinion
                                  -Laird
                -Weather
                      -Impact
                            -Number of sorties
                -Damage
                      -Bridge
                      -Convoy
                            -Secondary explosions
                      -Tanks
                -B-52s
                      -Increase
                            -Number
                                  -From the US
          -Naval Gunfire
                -Increase
          -North Vietnamese offensive
                -US intentions
                      -Amount of preparation
                      - Soviet Union and People's Republic of China [PRC]
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. 10/06)



            -Possible impact on the upcoming election
      -Blockade
            -Preparation of the Navy
                  -President’s instructions
      -Seriousness
            -Slow nature of mining
      -Blockade
            -Selective nature
                  -Food and medical supplies
-Air strikes
      -Weather
            -Impact
                  -Months of activity
-Laird
      -Department of State
      -New ideas
            -Upcoming meeting
-Public relations
      -Demilitarized Zone [DMZ] crossing
      -New York Times
            -Characterization of invasion
                  -Impact
-Threefold US reaction
      -Protection of US forces
      -Withdrawal program
      -South Vietnamese resistance
-White House, Defense and State Department statements
      -Inadequacies
            -Correction
                  -The President’s displeasure
            -Sources
-Press coverage
      -Statement by Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu
            -New York Times coverage
      -Quality
            -News summary
-II Corps-B-3 area
      -US actions
            -Reports
                  -Answer to Kissinger’s question
                  -Moorer
                        -Gen. John A. Vogt, Jr.
                        -President’s instructions to Kissinger
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)



          -Problems
          -Surface to Air Missiles [SAMs]
          -Press reports
          -Public relations
          -US actions
                -Compared with Laos
                      -Low profile
                -Laird's press conference
                -Press reports
                      -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -Atmosphere in White House
                            -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] story
                                 -Source
-US foreign policy
     -Soviet Union, PRC
     -Impact of current offensive
          -The President’s November 3, 1969 speech
          -Cambodia
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -Success
          -Encouragement to domestic critics
                -Nuclear weapons
          -Blockade
                -Soviet Reaction
                      -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Soviets
     -The President’s forthcoming trip
          -Poland
                -Dobrynin
     -Message from Leonid I. Brezhnev
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -US military
          -Possible obstacle
                                                 5

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)




The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 9:08 and 9:24
am.

     [Conversation no. 701-2B]

     [See Conversation no. 22-72]

[End of telephone conversation]


     Vietnam
          -North Vietnamese offensive
               -US reaction
                    -Weather
                    -Naval gunfire
                          -Orders
                          -Cessation
                          -Location of targets
                               -Accuracy
                          -Bombing halt
                    -B-3 area

The president talked with Thomas H. Moorer between 9:24 and 9:28 am.

     [Conversation No. 701-2C]

     [See Conversation No. 22-73]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Vietnam
          -Kissinger's forthcoming contact with Ziegler
               -Report
                     -Timing
          -North Vietnamese offensive
               -South Vietnamese countermeasures
                     -Dangers
                     -Quang Tri and Dong Ha
                            -Kissinger’s concern
                     -Retreat
                            -Effect on North Vietnamese supply lines
                                 -Anticipated results
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)



                    -Hue
                         -Symbolism
                   -Retreat
                         -Counterattack
                               -Laos operation
                                     -US Air Force [USAF]
                   -Third division
                         -Kissinger’s opinion
                   -Strength
                         -Concentration
                         -Effects of weather
                   -Crossing of river
              -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
                   -South Vietnamese retreats
              -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                   -Trip to South Vietnam
                         -Possible options
                   -Laird's reaction
         -Laird

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 3s]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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              -Reaction to offensive
         -North Vietnamese offensive
              -US counterattack
                   -Restrictions on statements
                         -Scali
                         -Ziegler
                         -Massive invasion
              -The President's Responsibilities
                   -Protecting human lives
                   -Ensuring withdrawal
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. 10/06)



           -South Vietnamese resistance
      -Public Reaction
           -Refugees
           -Anticommunism
                 -Statements
                       -Rhetoric
                            -Scali and Ziegler
                                  -President’s instructions to Kissinger
      -Soviet Reactions
           -Impact of US bombing
      -Blockade
           -Ships required
                 -Kissinger’s opinion
           -Legality
           -Mining
                 -Implementation
           -Problems
                 -Compared with Cuban missile crisis
           -Mines
                 -Delayed fuses
                       -Time allotted
           -Selectivity
                 -Problems
                       -Food and medical supplies
                            -PRC
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-Critics
      -Edmund S. Muskie
      -George S. McGovern
           -Statements on escalation
      -Muskie
           -Kissinger’s view
           -Charges of escalation
      -US position
           -Consequences of victory and defeat
                 -Reaction of the press
                       -Compared with Cambodian operation
-North Vietnamese offensive
      -Impact on election
-The President’s view
      -Impact on US foreign policy
           -Communist powers
           -Confidence in US
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)



                            -Support
                            -Europe and Asia
                                  -Seven points
                                        -Communists
                      -The President’s possible course of action in 1969
                -Seriousness
           -The President's policy
                -Compared with Gen. Charles A. J. M. De Gaulle
                -Resistance to defeat
           -North Vietnamese Offensive
                -Moorer’s location
                -B-52s
                      -Attacks on North Vietnam
                            -Target areas
                                  -DMZ
                            -Limits to target areas
                                  -Possible escalation
                                        -18th parallel
                      -Criticism

     The President's meeting with Robert S. Ingersoll
          -Instructions
          -Kissinger's trip to Japan
          -Length of meeting
          -Meeting with Kissinger

     Vietnam
          -Air strikes
                -Kissinger's trip to Japan
                      -Delay
                      -Decision
                           -Delays
                                  -Possible duration
          -Statements
                -Scali
                -Ziegler

Kissinger left at 9:43 am.