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Start Date: 4-Apr-1972 10:46 AM

End Date: 4-Apr-1972 11:46 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Eisenhower, Julie Nixon[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:13:31

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:12:47

701a.mp3

701b.mp3

701c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:46 am to 11:46 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 701-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 701-9

Date: April 4, 1972
Time: 10:46 am - 11:46 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Robert S. Ingersoll
         -Praise from the President
         -Comments on the President's foreign policy
         -Lincoln Memorial
                -Abraham Lincoln
                     -Compared with the President

     Political support for the President
           -General public
           -Gallup poll
           -Press

     Press
             -Ronald L. Ziegler's list of names
                   -Number
                   -Hugh S.Sidey
                   -John F. Osborne
             -Friends of the President
                   -Return calls
                        -Peter C. Andrews of Buffalo Courier Express
                        -New Republic and Life
             -News summary
                   -References to Sidey and Osborne
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                     -Importance
          -Friendly journalists
                -Potential importance
                     -Andrews
                            -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
          -Unfriendly journalists
                -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                -Ziegler
                     -Osborne
                            -Possible influence
                                 -Sidey
                                 -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Avoidance
                     -Haldeman's enforcement

Julie Nixon Eisenhower entered at 10:49 am.


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Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at 10:53 am.


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     White House Staff
          -Parties
                -The President’s concern
                -Movies
                     -Paul Fisher

     Photographs of the President
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
          -Problems
                -William L. Safire
                -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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               -Selection
          -Frank Leonard
          -John R. (“Tex”) McCrary
          -Leonard
               -Similarities of style
          -Atkins
               -Photographs of the President
                     -Image presentation
                     -Eye on Nixon


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[Duration: 1m 19s ]


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     News summary
         -Comments on the President's personality
              -Source
                    -Osborne
                          -Spectrum
                                -Unknown journalist
         -The President's trips
              -Human interest stories
                    -Trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
         -Press reports
              -Trip to PRC
                    -Impact
              -Presentation of the President as a person
                    -The President’s image

Julie Nixon Eisenhower entered at 10:58 am.

     Photograph session
          -Scheduling
               -Atkins
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                -The President's availability
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                     -Location


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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[Duration: 5s ]


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                -Time and day
                -Family picture
                     -Preparations
                     -Timing
                           -Mrs. Nixon


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[Duration: 3s ]


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                     -Preparations
                          -Mrs. Nixon

Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at 11:00 am.


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                                        Tape Subject Log
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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[Duration: 16s ]


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    Press
            -Attacks
            -Press conferences
                 -Unknown White House staffer’s suggestion
                        -Imitation of John F. Kennedy
                 -Kennedy's conferences
                        -Comparisons to current administration
                        -Reports in press
                        -Contents
                 -The President's conferences
                        -Handling by media
                              -Comparisons
            -Osborne and Sidey
                 -Meeting with the President
                        -Timing
                 -Ziegler
            -Osborne
            -Journalists
                 -Cultivation of friends
                        -President’s instructions
                              -1972 election
                        -Ziegler

    Drug speech
         -TV appearance
              -John D. Ehrlichman's advice
              -Other’s view
              -Need for reason
                    -President’s previous conversation with Ehrlichman
              -Fireside chats
         -Radio
              -Value
              -Photographs
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                    -Value
              -Florida trip
                    -Timing
              -Hotline
              -Timing
              -Plans
              -TV coverage
                    -Haldeman’s opinion


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 8s ]


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         -George S. McGovern
              -Statements
                    -Denials
                    -Corporate taxes
                          -Amount
                          -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] reports
                          -Misrepresentation
         -Media hostility to the President
              -McGovern's reception by press

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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[Duration: 53s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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     -Contributions
          -Republicans
                -Maurice H. Stans's statement
                      -Richard A. Moore
                      -Legal requirements
                            -John N. Mitchell
                -Amounts
                      -Publicity
                      -W. Clement Stone
                      -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy
                      -Problems
          -List of contributors
                -Publication of list
                      -Problems
                      -Current actions
                -Jackson
                      -List of contributors
                            -Publication
                -The President's contributors
                      -List of names
                      -Publication
                            -Effect on primaries
                      -A mailing
                            -Results
                      -List
                            -Publication
          -Publicity
          -John W. Gardner's criticisms
                -Public reaction
          -Criticisms of the President's campaign
                -Reaction
                -ITT
                -Democrats
                      -Edward M. Kennedy

William P. Rogers
     -Trip
           -Announcement
               -Possible timing

George H. Gallup group
     -Call to Haldeman’s office
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          -PRC trip
          -Relations with White House
          -Louis P. Harris
          -Albert E. Sindlinger
          -Charles W. Colson
     -Reports to the White House
          -Interest in the polls
     -Figures
     -Problems
          -Sampling techniques

Media
    -Writers
         -Appearances on Television
                -Credibility
                -Neil MacNeil from Time
                      -Spectrum television show
                      -ITT case
                            -Harm to administration
                      -Credibility
    -Press relations
         -Peter Lisagor
         -Sidey
         -James Keogh
                -Osborne
                      -Boycott
                -President Nixon and the Press
                      -Condensation in Reader's Digest
                      -Readership
                            -Comparisons

Acupuncture
    -Interest
          -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
                -Articles
    -Gen. Walter R. Tkach
          -Article
    -Interest
          -Fascination
    -Age of technique
    -PRC
          -Abolition and reinstatement by Mao Tse-tung
                -Cultural revolution
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                     -Article by James A. Michener


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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[Duration: 1m 11s ]


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An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:00 am.

     The President's schedule

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:46 am.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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[Duration: 1m 17s ]


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    Polling Presidential popularity
          -Thomas W. Benham’s analysis and numbers
               -Major issues
                     -Reversals in public opposition
                           -November 3, 1969 speech on Vietnam
                           -Cambodia
                           -Economic discussions of Phases I and II
                           -PRC trip
               -High points
               -Attrition
                     -Reasons
               -Beginning of term
                     -Successes
                           -High approval
               -Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson and Harry S. Truman
                     -Unsolvable problems
                           -Approval downturn
               -Vietnam
                     -Impact
               -Republican minority
               -Public support
                     -Depth
                     -Expectations
               -Current strategy
                     -Problems
                           -Inflation
               -Food prices
               -Labor
               -Food prices
                     -Food chains
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                 -Reduction of prices
                       -Safeway stores
                              -Advertisements
                                   -Possible price freeze
     -Weak areas
           -Groups
                 -Independents
                       -Reasons for voting
     -Party loyalty
           -Importance
                 -Mitchell
     -New voters
           -Party affiliation
           -Independence
           -The President's inroads
                 -Vietnam
                 -PRC opening
                 -End of draft
     -Women
           -High prices
           -Administration record
                 -Equal opportunity
                 -Appointments
           -Nixon family
           -Concerns
                 -Status of women
                       -Patricia R. Hitt
                       -Young women
           -Liberal leanings and idealism
                 -ITT
           -Budget consciousness
                 -Cost of goods
                       -The President and Muskie
                              -Comparisons
           -The President's personality
                 -Projection
                       -Importance
                       -Press
           -Awards
     -Presentation of awards
           -Timing
                 -Image as President rather than as candidate
-Course of the President's popularity over first term
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              -High and low points discussed
                   -Moon landing
                   -November 3, 1969 speech on Vietnam
                   -Withdrawal from Cambodia
                   -Laos
                   -Pentagon papers
                   -Phase I and Phase II discussions
                   -PRC trip
              -Gallup poll
              -Range
                   -John F. Kennedy
                   -Johnson


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
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[Duration: 1m 48s ]

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    Media
        -Radio speech on drugs

    Education
        -Forthcoming speech to the National Catholic Education Association [NCEA]
              -Ehrlichman
              -Draft
                    -Timing
              -Problems
              -Non-public schools
                    -Aid
                         -Colson
                         -Administration's position
                         -Division within White House
                         -Harris polls
                              -Results
                              -Catholic attitudes
                                    -George P. Shultz's study
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                                       -Ehrlichman
                -Financing
                      -Tuition
                      -Parish funds
                            -Contributions
                                 -Tax deductibility
                            -Problems
                                 -Non-Catholic students
                                       -Percentage
                -Shultz and Ehrlichman
                      -Opposition to aid
                      -Shultz
                            -Support for private schools
                -Ehrlichman
                      -Busing issue
     -Busing
          -Forum for handling
               -Television press conferences

Media relations
    -The President’s recent press conference
           -Press reports on the President's tone and physical condition
                 -Osborne
                 -Sidey
                 -Lisagor
                 -Sidey
                      -The President's aging
                             -Description from Sidey
                 -Osborne
                 -Comments
                      -Difference of opinion
                 -The President's press conferences
                      -Reports
                      -The President's tenseness
                             -Dan Rather
                             -Inaccuracies
    -Press conferences
           -President’s dislike
    -Keogh's book
           -Osborne's review
                 -Possible press corps view of the President
    -Press boycotts
           -Osborne
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                     -Ziegler’s role
                -Sidey
                -Osborne

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:00 am.

     The President's meeting with Prisoner of War/Missing in Action [POW-MIA] lawyers
          -Press picture
               -Advantages
               -American Bar Association [ABA]
               -Format
          -Number
               -[Louis] Patrick Gray, III
               -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:45 am.

     John B. Connally
          -Illness
                -Return home
                -Postponement of meeting with Arthur F. Burns

Haldeman left at 11:45 am.