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Start Date: 12-Apr-1972 10:14 AM

End Date: 12-Apr-1972 10:26 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Scott, HughFord, Gerald R.MacGregor, ClarkTimmons, William E.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:09:05

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:21:50

707a.mp3

707b.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:14 am to 10:26 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 707-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 707-5

Date: April 12, 1972
Time: 10:14 am - 10:26 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Clark MacGregor and William E. Timmons;
the recording began at an unknown time while the meeting was in progress.

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:15 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Congressional leadership
               -Republicans
               -Democrats
                      -John C. Stennis
                      -Samuel S. Stratton
                      -F. Edward Hebert
                      -George H. Mahon
                      -Charles M. Teague
               -Michael J. Mansfield
               -Carl B. Albert
               -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
               -Mansfield
                      -Views

     Ford’s forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Ford’s forthcoming statement
                                         3

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 707-5 (cont.)


          -Possible question
          -Scheduling
               -The President's Soviet trip
               -The President’s view

Vietnam
     -Forthcoming statements from Congressional leadership
          -Troop withdrawals
               -Statement by Scott
                     -Further statements
                     -Timing
                     -The President’s view
                            -Further withdrawals
          -Congressional leadership
               -Support for the President on air and naval power
          -South Vietnamese forces
               -Possible question about combat capabilities
                     -Ground fighting
                     -Air sorties
                            -Percentage
                     -Battle reports
                            -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
                            -South Vietnamese civilian support for North Vietnamese
                                 invasion
               -Scott's statement
                     -South Vietnamese performance
                            -Ziegler’s view
                            -Melvin R. Laird's, Thomas H. Moorer's and Abrams's reports
                                  -The President’s view
          -North Vietnamese offensive
               -Soviet support
                     -The President’s view
                            -Soviet weapons
               -Soviet Summit
                     -Possible questions regarding cancellation
               -Civilians of South Vietnam
                     -Support of South Vietnamese government
                     -Buddhist support of government
                            -Significance
                     -Support of South Vietnamese government
          -Negotiations
                                                 4

                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                         Conv. No. 707-5 (cont.)


                        -French statement
                        -US interest
                              -The President’s view
                        -Administration's record
                              -North Vietnamese aggression
                        -Failure
                              -North Vietnamese responsibility
                        -William J. Porter
                        -Record
                              -Administration efforts
                                    -Previous speech, January 25, 1972
                        -Private talks
                              -Discussion
                                    -The President’s view
                        -US position
                              -The President’s view

      Mansfield's and Scott's forthcoming trip to PRC
          -Meeting with the President, April 11, 1972
                 -Questions on PRC
                 -The President's message to PRC leaders
          -Scott's attendance at Oxford-Cambridge dinner
                 -Questions on PRC
          -Public appearances after trip
                 -Sunday television talk shows
                 -Overseas Writers Club

Scott et al., left at 10:26 am.