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Conversation: 709-010

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Start Date: 17-Apr-1972 10:32 AM

End Date: 17-Apr-1972 10:46 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Kissinger, Henry A.Trampczynski, Witold

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:55:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:11:16

709a.mp3

709b.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Henry A. Kissinger, and Witold Trampczynski met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:32 am to 10:46 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 709-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 709-10

Date: April 17, 1972
Time: 10:32 am - 10:47 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 709-9 (cont.)


           -Meeting with Witold Trampczynski
               -Photographs
                     -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
               -Press

Henry A. Kissinger entered and Bull left at 10:32 am.

     Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
         -Message to US
               -Analysis

     The President's forthcoming trip to Poland
          -Announcement
               -Trampczynski
               -Soviets
               -Possible cancellation

     USSR
         -Soviet Summit
              -Collapse
                    -Initiative
                           -U-2 incident
                                -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                                      -Possible similarities
         -Joseph C. Kraft
              -Conversation with Kissinger
                    -Soviet response

Trampczynski entered at 10:34 am.

     Greetings

     Photographs
          -Arrangements
               -Message for the President

     Warsaw
         -Kissinger's visit

     Poland
          -The President's last visit
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 709-10 (cont.)


           -Meeting with Wladyslaw Gomulka
                 -Chou En-lai
                 -Nikita S. Khrushchev
     -Letter inviting the President to visit Poland
           -Premier Piotr Jaroszewicz
     -Chairman of the Council of State, Henryk Jablonski
           -Visit to US

US-Poland relations
    -US aspirations
          -Differences
          -Similarities to the President’s trips to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                and USSR
    -Polish-Americans
          -Special ties
    -Mutual agreement
    -Polish-Americans
          -The President’s Polish acquaintances
                -Locations
          -John Cardinal Krol of Philadelphia
    -The President's forthcoming visit to Poland
          -Lodgings
                -Size of party
                      -Request from the Polish government
                -President and Thelma C. (“Pat” ) Nixon
                -Arrangements
          -The President's stop in Teheran
          -Meetings with officials
          -Mrs. Nixon
                -Tours
                      -Schools
                      -Hospitals
                      -Areas of interest
                      -Culture
    -Poznan Boys' Choir
          -Past performances
          -Future performances
    -Trampczynski's home town
          -Warsaw
          -Historic site
                -Memories
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 709-10 (cont.)


           -Kissinger's visit in 1964
                -Visit of Polish Jews
                      -Kissinger's reaction
           -Trampczynski's stay in US
                -Berkeley, California
                      -University of California at Berkeley [?]
                      -Return visit
           -The President's trip to Poland
                -Symbolism
                -Benefits
                      -Economic cooperation
                             -Warsaw

Trampczynski left at 10:45 am.

     Vietnam
          -Haiphong
          -Kissinger's meeting with press
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -US bombing
               -Haiphong and Hanoi
                     -Visit of Polish Ambassador with the President
                           -Invitation to visit Poland
                     -Soviet attitude
                     -Press reports

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Meeting with press
                -Robert J. McCloskey, Daniel Z. Henkin and Ziegler
          -Washington Special Action Group [WSAG] meeting
          -Meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
          -WSAG meeting
                -Kissinger's attacks on Democrats
                      -Support for North Vietnamese invaders

Kissinger left at 10:47 am.