Conversation: 712-006
Prev: 712-005 Next: 712-007Start Date: 18-Apr-1972 5:01 PM
End Date: 18-Apr-1972 5:33 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; MacGregor, Clark; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:08:41
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:39:07
NARA Description:
On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, Clark MacGregor, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 712-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 712-6
Date: April 18, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:33 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Manolo Sanchez.
The President's schedule
-Dinner on Sequoia
-Departure time
-Sequoia
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[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 38s ]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
CLARK MACGREGOR ENTERED AT 5:03 PM.
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:32 pm.
ITT [International Telephone and Telegraph] case
-Senate committee
-Session
-Republican senators
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Help for administration
-Robert C. Byrd
-Cooperation
-Democrats
-Byrd's role
-John V. Tunney and Edward M. Kennedy faction
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Vote
-Trip to conference in Oxford, England
-Vote
-James O. Eastland, Ervin, and Byrd
-Mathias
-Majority
-Byrd
-Paul J. Fannin
-William P. Rogers briefing
-Meeting with Ervin
-Meeting with Byrd and Ervin
-Alignment with Kennedy, Tunney, Philip A. Hart, Birch E.
Bayh, Jr. and Quentin N. Burdick
-Likely vote
-Testimony
-MacGregor's conversations with Edwin Reinecke and Edgar Gillenwaters
-Jack Gleason
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-Order of appearance
-Gillenwaters
-Position
-Availability
-Harry D. Steward
-Questioning
-Gillenwaters
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Preparation
-John N. Mitchell
-Eastland
-MacGregor
-Roman L. Hruska, Edward J. Gurney and Marlow W.
Cook
-Questions by Kennedy and Tunney
-Eastland rulings
-Republican objections to questions
-Executive privilege
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Discretion
-Executive privileges
-Pitfalls
-Coaching by MacGregor
-Problems
-Questioning
-Answers
-Tone
-Coaching
-H. Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose, Bryce N. Harlow and
MacGregor
-Questions to avoid
-Background on Richard W. McLaren policies
-Administration disaffection
-Legitimacy of antitrust suits
-Arthur F. Burns
-ITT Company
-Growth under John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-Rate
-Publicity of figures
-Acquisitions
-Figures
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-Inaction
-Administration's record
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:03 pm.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 27s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:32 pm.
ITT case
-ITT Company
-Growth
-Administration's record on antitrust
-Compared with Johnson and John F. Kennedy
-Antitrust
-Debate in administration
-Acknowledgement
-Justice Department
-John B. Connally and Maurice H. Stans
-Consent decree
-Harold S. Geneen
-Protests against Administration policies
-Publicity
-Flanigan testimony
-Justice Department decision
-Defense
-Concern for economy
-Government agencies
-Secretaries of Treasury, Commerce, Council of
Economic Advisors [CEA]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-Attacks on business
-Administration policies
-Points to make
-Criterion of case
-ITT windfall
-Role of unknown White House aide
-Work with lobbyists
-Meetings with journalists
-Suit against networks
-Lobbyists with administration
-Labor unions
-Universities
-Black caucus
-Flanigan testimony
-ITT settlement
-Justification
-Bigness of business
-Antitrust cases and lobbyists
-Postal rates
-Media protests to White House
-Newspaper mergers
-Protests
-Administration's openness
-Administration handling
-Referral to departments
-Conglomerate decision
-Settlement
-McLaren and Erwin N. Griswold roles
-Johnson and John F. Kennedy inaction
-Administration counterattacks
-Important questions
-Malfeasance
-Sheraton Corporation of America
-Geneen
-Contribution
-Repercussions
-Flanigan testimony
-Impulsiveness
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Intellects
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
Edward M. Kennedy
-Harvard University
-Examination
-Social life
[Unintelligible]
MacGregor's activities
-Trip to Minneapolis
-Republican group
-National Alliance of Businessmen [NAB] breakfast
-Speech
-Turnout
-Meeting with President on April 10, 1972
Edward Kennedy
-Bill on Chappaquiddick
-The President’s talk with John D. Ehrlichman
-Congressional Record
-MacGregor's conversation with William E. Minshall
-Public interest
-Origin of bill
-Size of staff
-Reasons
Charles W. Colson
Vietnam
-Democratic critics
-Counterattack
-Vulnerability
Kleindienst
-Confirmation
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] question for MacGregor
Vietnam
-Bombing
-NBC question from MacGregor
-Risks
-Hanoi
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-Haiphong
-Results
-Accomplishments
-Middle East, Soviet Union, Berlin and People's Republic
of China [PRC]
-Critics
-Handling
-1800 election
-Thomas Jefferson's identification with France
-Near defeat
-John Adams
-Identification
-Federalist mistakes
-Alien and Sedition Acts
-Jeffersons' narrow margin of victory
-Identification with enemy
-Johnson
-North Vietnamese invasion
-Betrayal of American soldiers
-Lack of criticism of North Vietnam
-William P. Rogers's testimony
-MacGregor's sister-in-law and brother
-Reaction
-Handling
-MacGregor's call
-Encouragement
-The President
-Rogers
-Reluctance to fight
-Melvin R. Laird
ITT case
-Senate committee
-Termination of hearings
-Time
-Executive session
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Criticism of Ervin
-Testimony
-Flanigan
-William E. Timmons
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Edward Kennedy and Tunney
-Attack on Ervin
-Counterattack
-Cook
-Gurney
-Hawkishness
-Report from Wallace H. Johnson
-Conversation with Hruska
-Reinecke's and Gillenwaters's testimony
-Gleason testimony
-Avoidance
-Delays
-Gillenwaters
-Objections
-Hruska
-Testimony
-Steward
-Substitutes
-Reinecke and Gillenwaters
-MacGregor's statement
Senate
-Irresponsibility
-"War Powers" debate
-Lyndon Johnson's tenure
-Foreign Relations Committee
-Reaction to fund cut-off bill
-George D. Aiken
-Age
MacGregor
-Political experience
-Work with the President
-1972 election
Senate
-Work as a body
Stephen B. Bull entered at 5:32 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 7/07)
Conv. No. 712-6 (cont.)
-Departure of senators
MacGregor left at 5:32 pm.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.