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Start Date: 20-Apr-1972 11:48 AM

End Date: 20-Apr-1972 12:03 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Ehrlichman, John D.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:37:02

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:52:32

714a.mp3

714b.mp3

714c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:48 am to 12:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 714-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 714-11

Date: April 20, 1972
Time: 11:48 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 7/07)



The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 11:48 and 11:52 am.

     [Conversation No. 714-11A]

     [See Conversation No. 23-48; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation.]

John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 11:48 am.

     [End of telephone conversation]

     Budget
         -Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT]
             -Previous cuts
             -Defense contracts
                  -Weapons
             -Amount

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:52 am.

     Refreshment

     Ehrlichman's schedule
           -Speech

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:02 pm.

     Budget
         -Ehrlichman's review
               -George P. Shultz's figures
               -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
         -Higher education
               -Current state
               -Cuts in subsidies
                     -Science
                          -Ideology of teachers
                          -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
                                -Possible resignation
         -Science
               -Cuts
                     -Percentage
                     -Approach
                     -Shultz
         -MIT
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 7/07)



     -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] contracts
     -Transportation Department contracts
     -Research
     -Grants
           -Subject
           -Cuts
     -Defense contracts
           -Inventory
                 -Weinberger
-Stanford University
     -Review of contracts
-Higher education
     -Cut in grants
     -Contracts
           -Penalty clauses
     -Non-renewal of grants
           -Instructions to departments
     -Cuts in grants
           -Weinberger
           -University of Chicago
           -Teaching assistants
           -Austerity
           -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
           -Shultz's memorandum
           -Austerity budget
           -Instructions to Weinberger
     -National Science Foundation [NSF]
           -Cuts
     -Amount of funding
           -Jeb Stuart Magruder
     -Cuts
           -Support
                 -Peter G. Peterson
                 -Weinberger
                       -Cuts in taxes
-NSF
-MIT
-NSF
     -Cuts
     -Management contract
           -Lincoln Labs
-Higher education
     -Cuts in grants for teaching assistants
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 7/07)



                        -Minimums
                        -Exceptions
                             -Defense example
                        -Weinberger
                        -Loopholes
                  -Protests
                        -Handling

     Ehrlichman's schedule
           -Speech
                -American Enterprise Institute [AEI]
                      -William J. Baroody, Jr.
                -Police officials
                      -Press coverage
                            -Charles W. Colson's analysis

     Press
             -Ronald L. Ziegler
             -Network news subjects
                   -Vietnam, International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT], economy and John B.
                   Connally's speech
                   -Sunday stories
             -Ehrlichman's dealings
             -Story on crime
                   -Picture of the President
                   -Story
                         -Law Enforcement Assistance Act [LEAA]
             -Other stories
                   -Exploitation

     Ehrlichman's schedule
           -Trip to Camp David
                 -Time

     Ehrlichman's speech
           -Audience

Ehrlichman left at 12:03 pm.