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Conversation: 716-003

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Start Date: 1-May-1972 5:31 PM

End Date: 1-May-1972 5:53 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:25:25

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:49:11

716a.mp3

716b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:31 pm to 5:53 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 716-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 716-3

Date: May 1, 1972
Time: 5:31 pm -5:53 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Vietnam
          -Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Le Duc Tho
                -Public record
                     -Statement by President
                           -The President’s view
                           -Wording
                     -An announcement
                           -Statement
                           -Strength
                -North Vietnamese offensive
                     -President's response
                           -Public support
                                 -Polls
                           -Bombing
                                 -Extent
                     -Negotiations
                           -US demands
                                 -North Vietnamese action
                                       -Demilitarized zone [DMZ]
                                       -March 29, 1972 status quo ante
                                 -Prisoners of war [POW] release
                     -US bombing
                -US proposals
                     -January 25, 1972
                     -Withdrawal
                     -POWs
                     -North Vietnamese response
                -Negotiations
                     -Kissinger's opening statement
                     -North Vietnamese [Le Duc Tho’s] responses
                     -Tenor of Kissinger's remarks
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. Dec-01)
                                                            Conv. No. 716-3 (cont.)

          -President's Intentions
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s view
          -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
     -Melvin R. Laird's previous predictions
          -Vietnamization
                -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
                -Risks
                -Success
                      -Reasons
                -US aid
                      -Tanks
                            -Japan
                            -Trained personnel
                            -South Vietnamese Losses
                                  -Military Region [MR] 1
     -South Vietnamese tank losses
          -North Vietnamese artillery
                -Soviet weapons
                -Effectiveness
     -North Vietnamese artillery
          -Number of rounds
                -Estimates
                      -Quang Tri
                      -An Loc
     -Cambodian operation
          -Kissinger’s view
     -South Vietnamese response
          -Offensive capabilities
          -Defensive capabilities
-South Vietnam
     -Cambodia
          -Offensive ability
     -US support
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -US response
          -Lack of new ideas
                -Laird
                -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
                -Abrams
     -South Vietnamese defeat
                                       18

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Dec-01)
                                                             Conv. No. 716-3 (cont.)

                -US public response
     -US public opinion
          -Kissinger's dinner with Rowland Evans and Thomas W. Braden
                -US response to offensive
                -The President’s view
     -North Vietnamese offensive
          -North Vietnamese targets
                -Selection
                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming briefings
                            -Abrams
                            -Moorer
                      -Briefing of President
                      -Options
                      -Dikes
                -B-52s
                      -Populated areas
                            -Problems
                            -Press coverage
                      -Risks
          -Haiphong
                -Recovery
                -Air strikes
                      -Piers
                      -Petroleum, oil and lubricant [POL] dumps
                      -B52s
          -Air strikes
          -Soviet weapons
                -Quality

Soviet Union
     -Military capabilities
           -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
                -Gen. Andrew J. Goodpaster
           -Compared with US military capabilities
                -The President’s view

US military establishment
    -Reorganization
           -1972 election
    -John B. Connally
           -Appointment as Secretary of Defense
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Dec-01)
                                                          Conv. No. 716-3 (cont.)

                      -The President’s view

     Vietnam
          -North Vietnamese offensive
               -Air strikes
                     -Connally's opinion
                     -Support in Texas
                     -Destruction
                           -Thanh Hoa
                     -Weather
                           -Kissinger, Haig
               -South Vietnamese performance
                     -Abrams's evaluation
                           -Laird
                     -Morale
               -Air strikes
                     -Impact
                     -B-52s
                           -North Vietnamese casualties
                     -South Vietnamese actions
                           -Counterattacks
                           -Plans
                                 -Dong Ha, Quang Tri
          -Ronald L. Ziegler's statements
               -Stance to press
          -North Vietnamese offensive
               -South Vietnamese losses
                     -Public stance
                     -Press reports
                           -Impact on US public
                           -Laos operation
                     -Provincial capitals
          -Memorandum [?]
               -Retyping

     Kissinger’s schedule

Kissinger left at 5:53 pm.
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Dec-01)
                                                                   Conv. No. 716-3 (cont.)