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Start Date: 4-May-1972 12:56 PM

End Date: 4-May-1972 1:21 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Fitzsimmons, Frank E.Schoessling, RaymondTrerotola, JosephMcCarthy, William J.Mathis, Welon L.Colson, Charles W.White House photographer[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:54:28

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:20:27

719a.mp3

719b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Raymond Schoessling, Joseph Trerotola, William J. McCarthy, Welon L. Mathis, Charles W. Colson, White House photographer, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:56 pm to 1:21 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 719-19

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: 12:56pm - 1:21 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Raymond Schoessling, Joseph Trerotola, William
J. McCarthy, Weldon L. Mathis, and Charles W. Colson; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings

     Seating
          -Arrangements
          -Photographs
          -A chair

     Pay Board
          -Meetings
          -Work with International Brotherhood of Teamsters
               -President's appreciation
          -Controls
               -Workability

     Teamsters
         -Contracts
               -Chicago
               -George P. Shultz
         -Controversy
               -Retroactivity
         -Contracts
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan-02)
                                                                   Conv. No. 719-19 (cont.)

               -West Coast
                     -Problems
                     -Harry Bridges
          -Support for President

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 12:56 and 1:21 pm.

          -Foreign policy support
                -President's gratitude
          -Past support for the President
                -Dave Beck
                      -The President’s view


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 31s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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          -Labor movement
                -Support for American values
                      -President's gratitude
          -Fitzsimmons's statement
          -George Meany's statement
                -Political activities
                      -George S. McGovern
          -Dave Leonard
                -Appearance on television
                -Affiliation
                -Trip to Hanoi
                      -Harold Gibbons
                      -[Forename unknown] Caldwell
                      -Meeting with Fitzsimmons
                            -Le Duc Tho
                            -Support of coalition government
                                            31

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Jan-02)
                                                                 Conv. No. 719-19 (cont.)

                   -Trip to Hanoi
                         -Gibbons
                   -Coaliton governments
                         -Problems with Communists
                              -Czechoslovakia

    Organized labor
        -Effects of Communists in unions
        -International Labor Organization [ILO]
              -[Forename unknown] Charles
              -Activities in Europe
                    -Caldwell
                    -Discussion on plane
        -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
        -Access to White House
              -Partisanship
        -Support of Democratic party
        -President's relationship
              -Fitzsimmons's relationship with the President


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 15s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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                          -Trerotola
                          -Peter J. Brennan
                               -The President’s view
         -Construction trades
              -Association with Teamsters
              -Brennan
              -[Forename unknown] Van Horne
              -Rockefeller
              -Brennan
                                         32

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Jan-02)
                                                               Conv. No. 719-19 (cont.)

           -Association with Teamsters

J. Edgar Hoover
     -Age at death
           -The President’s view
     -Criticism
           -Life magazine
           -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
           -Jack N. Anderson
                 -Column
     -Retention in office
           -President's defense
     -Career
           -Criticism

Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
     -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
          -The President’s view
          -Career
                -Administrative assistant to Adm. Arthur W. Radford
          -Character
          -Tenure in office
          -Meeting with the President
          -Liaison with Colson
          -Background
          -Character

Demonstrators
    -Position of Trerotola
          -Incident at St. Patrick's Cathedral
                -Mrs. Trerotola
                -Picketing nuns
                      -Trerotola's conversation
                -Anita Trerotola
                -Nuns actions in cathedral

Vietnam
     -Catholics in North Vietnam
          -Killings in 1954
     -North Vietnam victory in 1970s
          -Consequences
                -Lack of publicity
                                                33

                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Jan-02)
                                                                    Conv. No. 719-19 (cont.)


     Support for the President

     Gifts

     Anecdote
         -President's dinner for retired Congressmen
               -John Sherman Cooper
                     -The President’s view
                     -Joke

     Gifts
             -For wives
                  -Ash trays
                         -Described
             -For men
                  -Money clips
                         -Described
             -Golf balls
                  -Golf
                         -Jim [Surname unknown]

     Goodbyes
         -Support for the President
         -Communists
         -Appreciation

Fitzsimmons, et al., left at 1:21 pm.