Conversation: 724-002
Prev:  724-001 Next: 724-003Start Date: 15-May-1972 2:25 PM
End Date: 15-May-1972 3:32 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Connally, John B.; [Unknown person(s)]; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:31:13
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:33:01
NARA Description:
On May 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, John B. Connally, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:25 pm and 3:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 724-002 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 724-2 2 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Date: May 15, 1972 Time: Unknown between 2:25 pm and 3:32 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Stephen B. Bull. John B. Connally -Arrival Connally entered at 2:29 pm. Arthur F. Burns -A speech -Distribution -Disagreement with Connally -The President’s view -Discussion with [First name unknown] Turner An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 2:29 pm. Refreshment orders The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:32 pm. Burns -A speech -Canadian government -The President’s view -A speech -Effect -International monetary negotiations -Possible rebuttal -Paul A. Volcker -Pepperdine College speech -Domestic monetary situation -Discussions with the President -Value to administration -The President’s view -Value to Administration -Appointment of Andrew F. Brimmer -Alternatives -Work of Jeffrey M. Bucher -Connally’s view 3 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Story on speech -Comparison to Pepperdine speech -Controls -Domestic -International -Relations with the press Jews -In press -In government -Plans for second term -Frederic V. Malek -Background -Check by H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Schedule C appointees -Percentage of Jews to be allowed -The President’s view -Haldeman's views -Geographical areas -Schools to avoid -Harvard -Yale -Princeton -Columbia -Malek's work -The President’s view -President's review of Schedule C list -Change in philosophy Effect of Washington environment -Potter Stewart -The President’s view -Compared to William O. Douglas -"Georgetown set" -Mrs. Stewart -Effect on others -Texans -Californians -Embassy officials -Similarities Connally's schedule -Montreal 4 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Cancellation -Reasons -Latin America trip -Timing -Vietnam -Resignation -Montreal banking meeting -Number and nationalities attending -Attendees -Volcker -Burns -James Dewey Daane -Herbert Stein -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] -Peter M. Flanigan -Council of International Economic Policy [CIEP] -Desire to make news Business Council -The President’s view -Donald McI. Kendall -President's actions in behalf of business -Stance on Vietnam -Compared with George Meany -The President’s view -The President’s and Connally’s view -Administration representatives at meeting -Secretary of Commerce -William P. Rogers -Administration actions in behalf of business -Alternatives -Hubert H. Humphrey -George S. McGovern -Edward M. Kennedy -Meetings with the President and government officials -The President’s view -Compared with Elmer H. Bobst -Compared with Robert H. Abplanalp -Compared with John W. Mulcahy -1968 campaign contributions -Amount -Compared with Mulcahy -Cyrus R. Smith 5 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Attitude toward Business Council -The President’s view -Stance on Vietnam policy -Greg Borchers [?] -Kendall -The President’s view -Wife -The President’s view -Mail survey on the blockade decision -Amount of response -Use -Business Council responses -Rusty Young -Expected results -Reasons -Kendall -Advice on Soviet trade policy -Trade policy -President's knowledge compared with Business Council -Peter G. Peterson -Flanigan -Soviet trade -Export-Import [Ex-Im] Bank credits -Grain crop -Most Favored Nation [MFN] status -Statistics -Peterson -US return -Soviet return -Computers -Grain -US return -Kendall's interest -PepsiCola -Meetings with the President -Texas Eastern -Oil and gas interests -George Kirby -Reports on meetings with Alexei N Kosygin -Need for deal Soviet Summit -Cancellation 6 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Connally's prediction -Timing -Likelihood -Communications on preparations -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger -Gifts -Hydrofoil -Cars -Cancellation -Predictions -Likelihood Previous speech on the blockade -People's Republic of China [PRC] response -Soviet response Vietnam -Recent victories -Effect on morale -US -South Vietnam -Firebase Bastogne -Sorties -Number since blockade decision -Effect -Targets -Red River Bridge -Oil dumps -Expectations of success -1968 Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] comparison -Cambodian support -Sihanoukville -Ports -Mechanization -Oil -Rolling Stock -Railroads -Effect on railroads -Weaponry -North Vietnam-Soviet Union relations -US military actions -Risk -Effects -Settlement 7 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Timing -Destruction of North Vietnamese assets Soviet Union` -Role in Vietnam settlement -Timing -Credit -Communications -Leonid I. Brezhnev -Summit Vietnam -US military actions -State Department -Story on mines -Repudiation -Kissinger meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -Public opinion -Polls -Louis P. Harris -Percentage -Pennsylvania -John Getz's report -President's decision -The President’s view -Alternatives -Fall of Hue -Da Nang evacuation -Summit cancellation -The President’s view -Demonstration -Effect 8 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 58s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ********************************************************************** Vietnam -President's previous speech on the blockade -Senate Democratic Caucus vote -Necessity -Connally’s view President's schedule -Meeting with George P. Shultz -Time -Meeting with Connally An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 2:29 pm. Refreshment order The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:32 pm. Shultz -Appointment as Secretary of Treasury -Connally's appointment -Date -Connally's tenure -Length -Qualifications -Discussions -Nomination process -Acting Secretary status -Connally's discussions with Haldeman -Confirmation -Connally's status -Likelihood -Transition period -Volcker 9 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Charls E. Walker -Business community -Effect -Opinion of Shultz -Burns -Timing of appointment -President's return from Moscow -Connally's schedule -Idanell Brill (“Nellie”) Connally -Travel -New positions at Treasury -Shultz's decision -Advantages to the President -Caspar W. Weinberger -Cabinet -Budget -Transition -Support -William F. (“Billy”) Graham -Connally’s view -Forthcoming announcement of appointment -Calls -Clark MacGregor -Cabinet meeting -Time -Attendees -President's comments -Connally's comments -Press briefing -The President, Connally, Shultz, Weinberger -President's remarks -Connally's role in transition -Shultz's qualifications -Weinberger's appointment -Office of Management and Budget [OMB] -Ronald L. Ziegler [?] -Connally's remarks -Reasons for resignation -Review of accomplishments -Future plans -Smithsonian Agreement -Control programs -Support for the President 10 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -National Security Council [NSC] membership -Expected questions -Future plans -Endorsement of Democrats -Support for the President -Nellie Connally ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 3m 31s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ********************************************************************** Nelson A. Rockefeller -Veto on busing moratorium -The President’s view -Vetoes -Anti-abortion bill -Forest Hills integrated housing President's opinions -Integrated housing -Busing -Abortion -Religious considerations -Graham -Terence Cardinal Cooke -Personal consideration Connally -Availability -Parallel to end of term as governor -Mark Connally -Move to Houston -Connally's work -Richardson and Bass law firm -Sid Richardson 11 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Length of service -Nellie and John Connally's plans -Trip to South America -Brazil -Purpose -Trip to Europe -Trip to South America -Robert H. Finch -Trip to Africa -Trip to South America -Discussion with Kissinger -Timing -Soviet Summit -Shultz's confirmation -Russell B. Long and Senate Finance Committee -Purpose -Brazil -Argentina -Value -Possible trip to Africa -South Africa -The President’s view -Trip to Arab countries -Jewish influence in US -Oman -Saudi Arabia -Algeria -Iran -Morocco -North African countries -Value -Need for trip -Brazil -Emilio Garrastazu Medici -Timing -Value of Connally visit -Celebrity status in other nations -Continuity of relationship with the President -Trip to Iron Curtain countries -President's trips to Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, and Hungary -Connally's trip -President's preference -Latin America 12 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -President's visit to Mexico -Itinerary -Colombia -Brazil -Argentina -Connally’s view -Appointment to President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB] -Reasons Restructuring of intelligence bureaucracy -Richard M. Helms -The President’s view -Replacement -Removal of Georgetown influence -Adm. George W. Anderson -PFIAB -Retention -Disarmament Board -President's plans -The President’s view -Improvements -Accuracy of intelligence on Soviets -Connally's role -Announcement -Timing -Purposes -Visits to Washington, DC -Information -Need -Defense of US -Foreign policy -Economic intelligence -Discussion with Anderson -Appointment to PFIAB Connally -Resignation -Announcement -Cabinet meeting -Press briefing -Ziegler -Press speculation -Return to Texas 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 724-2 (cont.) -Ben F. Barnes ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 30s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7 ********************************************************************** Connally -Schedule -Attendance at Blue Room reception -Nellie Connally -Location -Shultz meeting -Meeting with Kissinger -Location of Shultz meeting Connally left at 3:32 pm.