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Start Date: 16-May-1972 5:43 PM

End Date: 16-May-1972 5:54 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Krol, John CardinalBull, Stephen B.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:57:04

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:12:07

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725b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John Cardinal Krol, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:43 pm to 5:54 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-038 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 725-38

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: 5:43 - 5:54 p.m.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John Cardinal Krol and Stephen B. Bull; the White
House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

      President's schedule
          -Described
          -Krol's wait

      [Photograph session]
          -Location

      Sequoia cruise
          -Attendees
               -William P. Rogers
               -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

      Photograph session
          -Location
               -Other famous visitors

      George C. Wallace
         -Assassination attempt
               -Condition
                    -Press reports
                    -President's doctor's reports

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:54 pm.

                     -Bullet's location
                           -Possible operation
                           -Consequences
                -Arthur H. Bremer
                     -The President’s view
                     -Political affiliation
                           -Wallace
                           -Hubert H. Humphrey
                           -Young Democrats
                     -Motives
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Jan-02)


              -Shooting ability
         -Shooting scene
              -Aim
              -Call to Wallace
         -Bullet locations
         -Secret Service agent's wounding

Other shootings
   -James Francis [Cardinal] McIntyre
         -Krol's lunch with unidentified psychiatrist
               -Office shooting
               -Murder of new secretary
               -Motive
   -An unknown woman in Philadelphia
         -Motive
         -Letter to Krol's office
               -Psychiatrist's comments
               -Comparison with McIntyre shooting

President's walk to Treasury
    -Occasion
          -John B. Connally's resignation
    -George P. Shultz
    -Handshaking with White House tourists
          -Reason
               -New York Times editorial
                      -Violent society
                      -Television campaigns
                -President's opinion
                      -Setting example
          -Description of scene
    -Presidential activities
          -Climate of fear
          -Balance

Protection
    -President's Secret Service detail
    -Wallace's detail
          -Number of Secret Servicemen
          -Supplements
                -Alabama State Police
    -Possibility of stopping killers
    -Assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand
          -Number of guards
                                                 62

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan-02)


                -Sarajevo

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:43 pm.

      President's schedule
          -Presidential car
                -Availability
          -Camp David trip
                -Briefing books, notes, and briefcases
                      -Locations
                            -Oval Office
                            -Executive Office Building [EOB] office
                            -Lincoln Sitting Room
                      -Number
                -President's preparation for Soviet trip

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:54 pm.

               -Departure
                      -Time
          -Soviet trip
               -Importance
                      -Dinner discussion
               -A memorandum prepared by Krol
                      -Bull

      Krol story
          -National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
          -An unknown person
          -Six Crises

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:43 pm.

      President's schedule
          -Camp David trip
                -Briefcase

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:54 pm.

      Soviet Union
          -President's decision to blockade
                -Effect on Vietnam war
                -Effect on summit
                -Motivating factors
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan-02)


                       -Prisoners of War [POWs]
                       -US forces
                       -North Vietnam offensive
                             -Overrunning South Vietnam
                             -Tanks in Hue
                 -Possible cancellation of summit
                       -Letter to President from Polish government
                             -Day received
                             -Content
                             -Meaning
                             -Henry A. Kissinger
                             -Haig
           -Communist mindset
                 -Slavs
                 -Assumptions
                 -Outlook on wars
                       -Goals
                 -Response to President's actions
           -President's decision to blockade
                 -Difficulty
                 -Public support
                       -Support observed by Krol
                             -Philadelphia peace groups
                             -Bishop John Joseph Dougherty
                                   -Identified
                                         -Newark, New Jersey
                                         -Seton College
                                   -Pressure to sign peace statement
                                         -Krol's advice

Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:43 am.

      President's schedule
          -Time
          -Soviet trip
                -Discussions
                      -Vietnam

The President, Cardinal Krol, and Bull left at 5:54 pm.