Conversation: 726-005
Prev: 726-004 Next: 726-006Start Date: 19-May-1972 12:19 PM
End Date: 19-May-1972 12:49 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:50:12
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:13:12
NARA Description:
On May 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:19 pm to 12:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 726-005 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 726-5
Date: May 19, 1972
Time: 12:19 pm - 12:49 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with George P. Shultz.
[Discontinuities at the end of the conversation appear in the original recording.]
Shultz
-Confirmation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
-Clark MacGregor
-Timing with Richard G. Kleindienst's confirmation
-Tactical considerations
-Congressional tactics
-Acting Secretary of Treasury
-Confirmation
-Hearings
-Support
-Relationship to Kleindienst hearings
-Filibuster
-President's strategy
-Timing
-Ease
-Acting Secretary of Treasury
-Legality
-Timing
-The President’s trip to the Soviet Union
-John B. Connally trip
-Date
-Australia, New Zealand, and South America
-Purpose
-Shultz's assumption of position
-Legal impediments
-Date
-Connally trip
-Transition
-Speed
Shultz's schedule
-Briefings
-Meetings with Congressmen
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB] work
Connally
-Trip
-Status
Shultz
-Acting Secretary status
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
Treasury Department
-Personnel
-Shultz's choices
-Tax reform
-Personnel
-Edwin S. Cohen
-Personnel
-Shake-up at top
-Current problems
-"Chicago group"
-Arnold R. Weber
-Knowledge
-Work on freeze
-Management needs
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS], Customs
-Shake-up at IRS
-Connally's changes
-President's expectations of Shultz
-Changes
-Scope
-Timing
-Forthcoming election
-Preparation
-Qualities
-Youth
-Possible current changes
-Effect
-Top managers
-Support of President
-Charls E. Walker
-Paul A. Volcker
-Future positions
-Shultz's team
-Connally's team
-Qualities desired
Department of Labor
-Shultz’s previous tenure
George Meany
-Call
-Meeting
-Cost of Living Council [COLC] , tax reform
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
-Benefits
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 23s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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-Work with Shultz
-Lee Elder
-Identified
-Appointment as golf professional at Washington, DC golf course
-Rogers C.B. Morton
George B. Hartzog, Jr.
-The President’s view
-Future
-Action on Elder appointment
Elder
-Appointment as gold professional
-President's orders
-Shultz's call to Meany
-President's role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 24s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Economic policy
-Shultz
-Knowledge
-Conflicts with Arthur F. Burns
-Money supply
-Convertibility
-Tax system
-The President’s view
-Reform
-Use
-Social goals
-Legislation and appropriations
-Charitable deductions
-Simplification
-Tax lawyers
-Value-added tax [VAT]
-Manufacturers' excise
-Loopholes
-Milton Friedman
-Recruitment
-The President’s view
-Consultation
-Possibility
-Support for President
-View of wage and price controls
-Recruitment
-President's urging
-The President’s trip tot he Soviet Union
-Teaching load
-Conditions
-Personnel
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
-Recruitment
-Qualities desired
-Friedman
-Radicalism
-The President’s view
-Value
-The President’s message
-Shultz's future plans
-Tax reform
-Treasury Department
-Shake-up
-Dwight D. Eisenhower era personnel
-The President’s view
-Harry S. Truman era personnel
-The President’s view
-Congressional partnership
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Russell B. Long
-Meetings with Shultz
-Advice
-Work with President
-Senate role
-Mills
-Importance
-Meeting with President
-Tax bill
-Mills's position on reductions
-Problems
-Loopholes
-Democratic criticisms
-Effect of Democratic National Convention
-Republicans
-Importance
-Meetings with Shultz
-Shultz's relationship with President, Republicans
-Handling
Treasury Department
-Shultz's nomination
-President's advice on role
-Connally
-Relationship with Caspar W. Weinberger on budget
-Importance
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 726-5 (cont.)
-Trade and monetary policy
-US National interests
-Trade terms
-Protectionism
-Forthcoming election
-President's position
-Support for Connally's position
-Shultz's position
-Press reports
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Work on international trade policy
-Connally
-Knowledge
-Shultz's role
-Quadriad
-COLC
-Controls
-1972 election
-Termination
-Timing
-Budget
-Projections
Shultz left at 12:49 pm.