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Conversation: 733-002

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Start Date: 14-Jun-1972 9:00 AM

End Date: 14-Jun-1972 10:04 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Butterfield, Alexander P.[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:27:11

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:31:30

NARA Description:

On June 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:00 am to 10:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 733-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 733-2

Date: June 14, 1972
Time: 9:00-10:04 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     Cabinet meeting
          -Timing
          -Subjects for discussion
               -The President’s previous visit to the Soviet Union
                     -William P. Rogers
                     -Peter M. Flanigan
                                                2

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan-02)                   Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

                -Domestic issues
                          -Flanigan
                                -Trade
                          -John D. Ehrlichman

     Telephone calls
          -Compared with letters
               -Birthday greetings
               -The President’s instructions

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:05 am Butterfield left at an unknown time after 9:05 am.

     Letters and telephone calls to Congressmen
          -Foreign Affairs Committee
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Democrats
                -Republicans
          -Telephone calls
                -John L. McClellan
          -Time element
          -Clement P. Zablocki

     Senate Foreign Affairs Committee
          -Compared to House
          -Vote on floor on Vietnam
               -Clark MacGregor
          -Michael J. Mansfield amendment
               -Vietnam troop withdrawal
                     -Chances of defeat
                     -Amendments
                     -John J. Sparkman’s role

     Revenue sharing
         -Chances of success in Congress
         -Nelson A. Rockefeller on Capitol Hill
         -George P. Shultz

     Welfare bill
          -Ehrlichman
                -Welfare program
                     -The President’s view
                     -Draft
          -MacGregor
                                               3

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan-02)        Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

          -Social Security
          -Passage in Congress

     Revenue sharing
         -Votes in Congress
               -Wilbur D. Mills
         -Support in Administration
               -Robert H. Finch

     Budget problems
         -The President's vetoes

     Kissinger
          -Rogers
               -Forthcoming meeting with the President

An unknown woman entered at an unknown time after 9:05 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Rogers and Kissinger
               -Time

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.

     Rogers' trip itinerary
         -Australia, New Zealand, and the US [UNZUS]
         -Southeast Asia Treaty Organization [SEATO]
         -John B. Connally
                                            4

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Jan-02)       Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 20m 25s ]


HALDEMAN TALKED WITH AN UNKNOWN PERSON AT AN UNKNOWN TIME
BETWEEN 9:05 AND 10:04 AM

[CONVERSATION NO. 733-2A]

[END OF TELEPHONE CONVERSATION]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    White House staff salaries
         -Younger staffers
         -Older staff members
         -The President’s view
         -John C. Whitaker
         -Patrick J. Buchanan
               -Future
         -William L. Safire
         -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
         -Buchanan
         -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
         -Buchanan
         -Senior level
         -Youth salaries
                                            5

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Jan-02)            Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 11m 43s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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    William F. (“Billy”) Graham
         -Explo '72 rally
               -The President’s position

    Presidential scholars
         -Elliot L. Richardson
               -The President’s participation
         -Selection criteria
         -Caspar W. Weinberger
               -Michigan interns
                     -Support for George S. McGovern
         -Government interns
               -Abolition of program
                     -The President’s view
               -Interns in Republican campaign organization
                     -White House
         -Intership programs
               -Presidential interns
                     -Spiro T. Agnew
                           -Tricia Nixon Cox
                     -Political leanings
                     -Haldeman's conversation with Richardson
                           -Selection process
         -Advisory committees
               -President’s Science Advisory Committee [PSAC]
               -The President's selections
         -Interns
               -Political opposition to the President
                                             6

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Jan-02)                    Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

    Kissinger's appearance for Congressional briefing
         -Location
         -Weather
               -Arrival of Luis Echeverria Alvarez
         -Logistics

    Head of State visit of Echeverria
        -Political benefits
              -Spanish-Americans
              -Visits to Los Angeles, Texas, and Chicago


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 29s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    The President's position
         -Trips to People's Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union
               -The President's domestic opponents
                     -Effect of accomplishments
         -Strategic Arms and Limitation Treaty [SALT]
               -Republicans

    Revenue sharing
        -Shultz
              -Lobbying
        -Advantages to the President
              -Welfare program

    Presidential scholars
         -Tour of White House
         -Potential opposition to the President
               -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
                     -Richardson
                                           7

                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Jan-02)                Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

The President's schedule
     -Florida
           -Weather
     -Echeverria

Report on the President's trip to the Soviet Union
    -Butterfield
           -Cabinet meeting
                -Flanigan
                -Peter G. Peterson’s trip to the Soviet Union
                      -Revenue sharing
                      -Rogers
                             -Aleksei N. Kosygin
                      -The President’s view
                      -Earl L. Butz

Cabinet meeting
     -The President’s view
     -Timing
     -Agnew
     -Subjects
     -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Butz
          -Connally

Transportation exhibit at Dulles Airport
     -John A. Volpe
     -Problems
           -Traffic jams
           -Blue Angels
                -Fatalities

Cabinet meeting
     -Subjects
     -Ehrlichman
           -Availability

The President’s schedule
     -Richardson
          -House Resolution [HR] 1
     -Cabinet meeting
     -Echeverria
     -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
                                               8

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan-02)       Conv. No. 733-2 (cont.)

          -Scheduling
          -Press conference
                -Scheduling
          -Incumbent Republican Senators and Congressmen
                -Scheduling
                -Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
                -John M. Ashbrook

     McCloskey
         -Statements on prisoners of war [POWs]
               -Democratic response

     Ashbrook

     Tricia Nixon Cox
           -"Merv Griffin Show"
                -Rerun of wedding
                -Audience
                     -Possible hostility

     Protocol office
          -William R. Codus
          -Transfer to Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's staff
          -Informing Mrs. Nixon

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:05 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Kissinger and Rogers

The President, Bull, and Haldeman left at 10:04 am.