Conversation: 733-010
Prev: 733-009 Next: 733-011Start Date: 14-Jun-1972 2:54 PM
End Date: 14-Jun-1972 3:59 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Burger, Warren E.; Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)];Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:27:28
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:32:19
NARA Description:
On June 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Warren E. Burger, Manolo Sanchez, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:54 pm to 3:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 733-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 733-10
Date: June 14, 1972
Time: 2:54-3:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
The President met with Warren E. Burger.
Greetings
Work of Supreme Court
-John N. Mitchell
-Case load
-Work of Chief Justice
-Court executives
-Chief Justice
-Legislation
-Personnel
-Reorganization of circuit courts
Burger's children
-Employment
-Item for the President’s signature
Earl Warren
-Age
-Travel
Item for the President’s signature
-Wade Burger
Photograph
-J. Lee Rankin
-Fred Vinson
-Rankin
-Herbert Brownell
Vinson
-Capabilities
-Conversation with Burger
-Mitchell
-Age
Supreme Court Justices
-Age
-Harry A. Blackmun
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-Health
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-Health
-Performance
Wade Burger
-Photographs
-The President’s signature
-Burger’s appointment announcement
-Elvera Burger
-The President’s signature
Weather
Burger's exercise
-Walking
-Golf
-Tennis
-Swimming
-Gym at Supreme Court
-Swimming
Congress
-Strom Thurmond
-Exercise
-Allen J. Ellender
-Health
-Exercise
-Appearance
-John L. McClellan
-Judiciary committee
-James O. Eastland
-Work with Burger
-Burger
-Judiciary committee
-McClellan, Eastland, and Roman L. Hruska
-Eastland
-The President’s view
Burger's possible trip to Japan
-Invitation
-Value
-Japanese
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-The President’s view
-Timing
-Burger's schedule
American Bar Association [ABA] convention
-Warren
-Leon Jaworski
-Robert Meserve
-Burger's activities
-Powell
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 2:54 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:59 pm.
Supreme Court Justices
-William H. Rehnquist
-Forthcoming speech to state Chief Justices
-Burger
-Powell
-Schedule
-Public appearance
-Rehnquist
-Blackmun
-Hugo L. Black
-John M. Harlan
-William O. Douglas
-William J. Brennan, Jr.
-Wife
-Thurgood Marshall
-Powell
-Potter Stewart
-Byron R. (“Whizzer”) White
Supreme Court
-Importance
-The President’s view
-Changes
-Appointments
Book by Irving Kristol
-On Democracy in America
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-Domestic issues
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:54 pm.
Kristol book
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:59 pm.
Kristol
-Disenchantment with liberalism
-Domestic issues
-Chapter on censorship
-Burger
Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:54 pm.
Kristol’s book
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:59 pm.
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Kristol’s book
-Burger
-Clerks
-The President’s view
Reading by Burger
-Philadelphia Constitutional Convention
-Use in opinion
-Dictated section
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
Dictation system
-Purpose
-Typing
Secretaries at Supreme Court
-Sherman Adams
-Mary Byrnes
-Joseph H. Ball
The President's reading
-Winston S. Churchill
-Quality of writing
-Dictation
-Details
-Diary
Memoranda
-Record of conversations
-Leonid I. Brezhnev, Chou En-Lai
-Henry A. Kissinger’s role
-Vignettes
-Interest
-The President’s view
Burger's nomination as Chief Justice
-Recollections
-Mitchell
-Brownell
-Tax returns
-Burger's income
-Conversation with Mitchell
-Acceptance
-Brownell
-Eastland
-Meeting with Mitchell
-Public announcement
-Burger’s recollections
-Family response
-Elvera Burger
-Wade Burger
-Meeting with the President
-Record of meeting
-Announcement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
Appointment of Burger
-Experience
-Warren
-Experience
-Black
-The President’s recollections
-Abe Fortas
-The President’s view
-Burger’s views
-Black
-First Amendment
-Privacy
-Support for Burger
-Testimonial dinner
-Press reports
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Testimonial dinner for Black
-Black’s comments
-Endorsement for Burger
Future Supreme Court appointments
-Vacancies
-The President’s concern
-Qualifications
-Burger
-Names for vacancies
-Rehnquist
-The President’s view
-Role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-Mitchell
-G. Harrold Carswell
-The President’s view
-Clement F. Haynesworth
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 2:54 pm.
The President's acknowledgement
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 3:59 pm.
Future Supreme Court appointments
-The President’s policy
-Black appointment
-Jewish appointment
-Caspar W. Weinburger
-White House staff
-Arthur F. Burns
-Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
-Kissinger
-Herbert Stein
-Edward Levy
-Background
-University of Chicago
-William H. Brown III
-Equal Employment Opportunity Commission [EEOC]
-The President’s view
-Possible meeting with Burger
-Duke Power Supreme Court decision
-EEOC case
-Brown
-William French Smith
-University of California Board of Regents
-Mitchell’s previous conversation with Burger
-The President’s view
-Smith’s background
-Age
Administration appointments
-The President’s view
-Ivy League
-Middle America
-Geographic areas
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
Douglas
-Possible retirement
-Age
-Western background
-Regional identification
-Education
Attacks on Supreme Court
-Liberal press
-National Observer
-Wall Street Journal
-[Forename unknown] Perry
-Woman reporter’s column
-Douglas
-Burger
-Liberal press
-Criminal law
-Burger’s view
-The President’s view
Kristol
Decisions of Supreme Court
-Trends
-Right of counsel
-Press accounts
-ABA recommendations
-Douglas
-Dissent
-Rehnquist and Powell
-Burger
-Capital punishment case
-Forthcoming ruling
-The President’s view
Liberal press
-Reaction by Powell
-Rehnquist and Blackmun
-The President's relation with justices
New Supreme Court justices
-Effects of Washington social climate
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-The President’s advice
-Rehnquist
-Burger, Blackmun
-The President’s view
-Congress
-John Sherman Cooper
-Effect
-Vote on Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
-Burger
-Powell
-Rehnquist
-Blackmun
-Stewart
-White
-Burger’s view
-Possible successor to Burger
-White
-Burger’s view
-Blackmun
-Powell
-Rehnquist
-White
-Burger’s view
-Background
-Support for Burger
White House dinner for Supreme Court Justices
-Timing
-Guest list
-Confidence of citizenry in judiciary
-The President’s view
-John B. Connally's opinion
-Warren court
Issues before Supreme Court
-Busing
-Cases
-The President’s view
-Swann vs. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Board of Education case
-Press depiction
-Burger’s view
-Busing limits
-Restraining order
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-Burger
-Effect
-Detroit judge [Stephen Roth]
-Robert P. Griffin
-Gerald R. Ford
Judges
-John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson
-Political appointments
Supreme Court decision on private clubs
-American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU]
-Rights to privacy
-Jewish clubs
-Restrictions
-The President’s view
-Opposition on club restrictions
-Breakdown of restrictions
-Fitz Weiner (sp?)
-Legal arguments
-Private clubs
-Blacks
-The President’s view
-Burger’s view
-Restrictions
-Professional organizations
-Jewish and Catholic support
-Moose Lodge
No-fault insurance
-The President’s policy
-Opposition
-Cost of litigation
-Christian Science Monitor
-Costs of inquiry
-Litigation
-Workman's compensation
Lord Chief Justice of England
-Burger's house guest
-Possible visit to White House
-Trip to San Francisco
-Powell
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)
-Qualities, philosophy
-New York Times
-Opposition to philosophy
New York Times and Washington Post, Time, Newsweek
-Opposition to the President and Burger
-The President’s view
The Right Honorable Lord John Passmore Widgery
-Background
-World War II
-Appointment
-Friendship with Burger
-Burger's lecture trip to England
-Walter H. Annenberg
-Visit to the White House
-Arrangements
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
Kissinger
The President's opening to People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Impact
-Burger’s view
-Importance
-Soviet Union
World future
-Burger’s predictions
-Merger of Catholic and non-Catholic worlds
-Convergence of Communist and non-communist worlds
-The President's efforts
Nation's mood
-1972 election
-Thomas E. Dewey
-George S. McGovern
-Strengths
-Weaknesses
-Hubert H. Humphrey
Burger left at 3:59 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-10 (cont.)