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Start Date: 30-Jun-1972 2:55 PM

End Date: 30-Jun-1972 3:18 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)MacGregor, ClarkBull, Stephen B.Lagdameo, Ernesto V.Lagdameo, Ernesto V. (Mrs.)

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:30:38

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:53:45

NARA Description:

On June 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, Stephen B. Bull, Ernesto V. Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto V. Lagdameo met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:55 pm to 3:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 744-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 744-21

Date: June 30, 1972
Time: 2:55-3:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Clark MacGregor.
[This recording began at an unknown time while the meeting was in progress.]

     Social Security bill
          -Frank T. Church amendment
                -Possible veto
                -Cost to Social Security reserves
                -Fears of elderly
                -The President's position
          -Effects of veto of debt ceiling bill
          -Future debt ceiling bills
          -Congressional support
                -Samuel L. Devine
          -Ways and Means Committee
                -John W. Byrnes, Barber B. Conable, Jr.
                      -Elliot L. Richardson
                           -Possible testimony
                -Wilbur D. Mills
          -Byrnes
                -Effects of passage
                -Welfare reform bill (House Resolution [HR] 1)
          -Administration plan to delay Congressional adjournment
          -Possible statement about the President's feeling on Social Security
                -Record of the President's administration
          -Richardson
          -George P. Shultz's opinion on administration's fight
          -Richardson
          -Fight in committee
          -Possible amendments
                -Rules of debate
          -Byrnes
          -Leslie C. Arends
          -Jackson E. Betts
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb-02)
                                                                    Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.)

          -Arends
          -Conable
          -John B. Anderson
          -John J. Rhodes
          -George H. Mahon

     The President’s forthcoming meeting with Ernesto V. Lagdameo
          -MacGregor's trip to Manila

     Social Security bill
          -Possible veto
                -MacGregor’s view
          -Fight in committee
          -Campaign issue
          -Reasons for veto
          -Debt ceiling extensions
                -Political motivations of Congressional Democrats

     George S. McGovern


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 37s        ]


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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:55 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Anna C. Chennault

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:12 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -MacGregor
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Feb-02)
                                                                     Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.)


      Social Security bill
           -Shultz
           -Caspar W. Weinberger

Chennault, Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto Lagdameo entered at 3:12 pm.


      Greetings

      Arrangements for photograph

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:12 pm.

      The President's schedule
           -Richard G. Kleindienst
           -Ronald L. Ziegler

      Gifts

      Photographs

bull left at an unknown time before 3:18 pm.

      MacGregor

      Chennault

      Presentation of gifts by the President

      Parties

      The President's schedule

MacGregor, et al., left at 3:18 pm.