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Start Date: 1-Jul-1972 8:50 AM

End Date: 1-Jul-1972 9:45 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Bull, Stephen B.Butterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

746-003.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:50 am and 9:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 746-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 746-3

Date: July 1, 1972
Time: 8:50 am – unknown before 9:45 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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     John N. Mitchell
          -Resignation
                -Forthcoming article
                     -Possible note from the President
                -Schedule
                     -[Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania] flood
                -Martha (Beall) Mitchell’s conversation with Julie Nixon Eisenhower

     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Press coverage
          -Handling of press
                -Speech of June 30, 1972
                      -Advance text
                      -Network coverage
          -Attitude toward press
                -The President’s conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Colson, June
                      30, 1972
                -Advance texts
          -Speech of June 30, 1972
                -Value
          -Attitude toward press
                -Network interview
          -Compared to the President's press relations in 1960
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               -John F. Kennedy
               -Wire services
               -Willard Edwards of Alger Hiss case
               -Wire services
                    -J. William Theis, Douglas B. Cornell
                    -Columbus Citizen-Journal
         -Victor Gold
               -Performance as press secretary
               -Barry M. Goldwater


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    Dan Rather
        -News summary

    Scripps-Howard
         -Helen A. Thomas

    Rather
        -Relations with left
        -Possible Administration contract with William S. Paley
        -Attitude toward Administration
              -Motives
                    -Ambition
                        -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                    -Ideology
        -Unknown person
        -Colson’s possible conversation with Paley
        -Ronald L. Ziegler

    Media relations
        -Instructions for Colson in forthcoming conversation with Paley
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                -The President’s meeting with independent broadcasters, June 22, 1972
                     -Advertising and the Fairness Doctrine
                     -License renewals
                     -The President’s meeting with network heads
                         -CBS

     Public broadcasting appropriation
          -Social Security
          -Public opinion
          -Sesame Street
          -News programs
                -Competing network
          -Presidential statement
                -Sesame Street
          -Networks
                -Colson's forthcoming conversation with Paley
                -Colson’s recent conversations with Paley and Leonard H. Goldenson
                -The President’s view
                      -Private broadcasters
                 -Paley
                 -Frank Stanton

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 8:50 am.

     The President's schedule
          -July 4, 1972 speech
          -Social Security message for the President’s signature

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:05 am.

     Social Security bill
          -Cost
          -Tax increase
                -Timing
                -Value-added tax [VAT]
          -The President's decision to sign
          -Debt ceiling
                 -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger's plan
                 -Possible veto
                 -Possible call of Congress into session
                      -Timing
                          -1972 election
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Watergate break-in
    -Washington Daily News story on E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
          -Possible leak
          -Map
          -Walkie-talkie
          -Gun
    -Hunt
          -Latin America
          -Office proximity to Colson
                -Washington Daily News story
    -Washington Daily News story
          -Justice Department
          -Networks
          -Washington Post
    -Howard K. Smith
    -Money source
          -Republican
    -Cubans' fear of George S. McGovern
          -McGovern's letter on Latin America
                -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

Watergate
    -Possible break-in at Republican National Committee [RNC]
          -The President's plan
    -Attempts to bug administration
          -Mitchell
    -Missing Republican campaign files
          -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
    -Burglars
    -Projected break-in at RNC
          -Timing
                -Democratic National Convention
                -Robert J. Dole
    -Suit against the Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
    -Projected break-in at RNC
          -Financial records
    -Hunt
          -Relationship with Colson
    -James W. McCord, Jr. and Hunt
          -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
    -Hunt
          -Previous role in administration
                -Money
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                       -Ideology
                           -Books
           -McCord
                 -Contract with RNC
                     -Security
           -Security
           -Hunt
                 -Background
                     -CIA
                     -Latin America
                     -Bay of Pigs
                          -John F. Kennedy

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 9:05 am.

      The President’s signature
           -Unknown matter
           -[Social Security] bill statement
                 -Raymond K. Price, Jr.

      The President's schedule

Butterfield left at 9:10 am.


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      National economy
           -McGovern
           -Economic indicators
                 -Compared to 1971
                 -Colson’s conversation with Herbert Stein
                 -Weather
                 -Stein’s view
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                -May 1972
          -Manufacturing orders, inventories, durable goods
          -Stein’s view
    -Social Security bill
          -Colson's conversation with George P. Shultz June 30, 1972
          -Payroll taxes
          -Checks
                -Timing
          -Budget
          -Effect on economy
          -Effect on election
          -Instructions for Colson to call Dr. Arthur A. Fletcher
                -Elderly
                    -Budget
                    -Inflation
                    -Future vetoes
                            -Environment, education

Pending legislation
    -Veterans bills
          -The President's conversation with Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger and Clark
                 MacGregor, June 30, 1972
                 -Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
          -Education
          -Hospitals
          -Veterans GI bill

Veteans
    -Prisoners of war [POWs], national defense

The President’s press conference, June 29, 1972
     -French POWs
           -Network coverage
           -French Government’s statement
           -Washington Post article July 1, 1972
                 -Murrey Marder
           -Hugh Scott's briefing
           -Citizenship
                 -The President’ trip to Vietnam in 1953
                 -Indochinese
           -Compared to Gen. Douglas MacArthur in Philippines
           -Possible article
           -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
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               -Numbers
                     -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -State Department
               -Scott
               -Excerpt release
                     -Controversy
                     -McGovern
               -Missinger in action [MIAs]
         -French POWs
               -Figures
                     -North Vietnam
                     -Dissemination
                          -Possible article
                                -Smith Hempstone
               -Citizenship
                     -Categorization
         -Effect
               -Compared to press coverage
                     -Marder
               -McGovern

    The President's relations with press
         -Reaction to the President’s recent press conference
              -Marder
              -John A. Scali
         -Smith's opinion
         -Dan Rather
              -Vietnam
                     -Colson’s classmate’s action
                          -Hue, 1967


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     Veterans organizations
          -Photograph
                -Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
                -Surface to air missiles [SAMs]
                -McGovern's supporters
                     -Youth
                -Hospital bill
                     -Possible veto

     Social Security bill
          -Compared to veterans hospitals bill
          -Elliot L. Richardson
          -Weinberger
          -House Resolution [HR] 1
          -Family Assistance Program [FAP]
                -Pilot program
          -HR 1

     Welfare
         -Administration's goal
             -Work
         -McGovern's program
             -Minimum guaranteed income
             -$1000 per person welfare grant


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Colson left at an unknown time before 9:45 am.
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