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Start Date: 1-Jul-1972 11:19 AM

End Date: 1-Jul-1972 12:15 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.White House operatorZiegler, Ronald L.Reagan, Ronald W.Bull, Stephen B.Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap")Eisenhower, Julie Nixon

Recording Device: Oval Office

746-016.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, Ronald L. Ziegler, Ronald W. Reagan, Stephen B. Bull, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:19 am to 12:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 746-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 746-16

Date: July 1, 1972
Time: 11:19 am - 12:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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     Issues
          -Housing, maritime, elderly
          -Elderly
                -Colson’s forthcoming call to Arthur S. Flemming
                     -Llewelyn J. (“Bud”) Evans, Jr.
                         -Flemming’s schedule

     Social Security
          -Veto message
                -Prices and spending
                     -Increased taxes

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 11:19 am and
11:25 am.

[Conversation No. 746-16A]

[See Conversation No. 26-36]

     [End of telephone conversation]

     The President’s press conference, June 29, 1972
          -Attempts to contact Cabinet
               -Instructions to Colson
                     -John A. Volpe
                     -George W. Romney
                     -Romney’s schedule
                          -Canada
                     -Volpe’s schedule
                          -Virgin Islands
                     -Melvin R. Laird

     Laird
          -Politics

     The President’s recent press conference
          -French prisoners of war [POWs]
                -Laird
                -Murrey Marder
                -Nationality
                     -Memorandum
                     -Gen. Douglas MacArthur In Philippines
                -French withdrawal from Vietnam
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                      -Effect on South Vietnam

     David Kraslow’s article
         -Vietnam negotiations
               -Henry A. Kissinger
         -Jews
               -Marder, Kraslow
               -Israel
         -John A. Scali’s conversation with Kraslow
         -Vietnam negotiations
               -Kissinger
                     -POWs
         -George S. McGovern

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:25 am.

     The President’s statement about ship building contracts, July 1, 1972
          -Reaction
          -Value of contracts
          -Social Security bill statement
                -Timing
                     -Clark MacGregor
                     -Changes to statement
          -MacGregor's press conference

     Kraslw’s article
          -Vietnam negotiations
                -Kissinger
                      -POWs

     The President’s recent press conference
          -French POWs
                -Nationality
                -POWs held by Japan in the Philippines
                -McGovern
          -Crosby S. Noyes's article, June 30, 1972
                -South Vietnamese

Ziegler left and the President talked with Ronald W. Reagan at 11:28 am.

[Conversation No. 746-16B]

[See Conversation No. 26-37]
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[End of telephone conversation]

     Issues
          -Shipbuilding contracts
          -Andrew E. Gibson and Robert J. Blackwell
          -Elderly
                -Food program, mailing
                -Social Security
          -Compared to Dwight D. Eisenhower Administration
                -Democrats
          -Veterans
          -Aging
                -Medicare
          -Social Security bill
                -Pending legislation
                     -Education, Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW], Office
                          of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
                     -Vetoes
                -Voting pattern of elderly
                     -Compared to Jews
                -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger

     Pending legislation
         -Cuts
               -Public broadcasting bill veto
                      -Lobby
                      -Press and Congressional reaction
                          -Broadcasters
                          -Donald Oberdorfer, Jr.
                      -Public perception of public television
                      -Networks
                          -William S. Paley
                      -Government competition with private enterprise

     Elmer Lower's speech
         -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
         -Richard S. Salant
         -Intimidation by Administration
               -Economic coercion
               -Colson's letters to Leonard H. Goldenson and Frank
                Stanton
               -Goldenson's letter to Colson
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                     -Tone
                     -James C. Hagerty
                     -Copy to Lower
                -Public mistrust of network news
                     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

          Watergate break-in
               -Republican National Committee
               -The President's role
                     -Public impression
               -Robert F. Kennedy's bugging
               -1968 bugging
                     -Kevin P. Phillips’s column
                          -Anna C. Chennault
                          -The President's telephones
                          -Lyndon B. Johnson
                          -Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI]
               -Bugging McGovern
                     -Vietnam negotations
               -Phillips's article

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:28 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Weinberger

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:36 am.

     Weinberger
         -Defense Department
              -Meat purchase cuts

Weinberger entered at 11:36 am.

          -Defense Department procurement
               -[David] Kenneth Rush
                    -Kenneth W. Dam
                    -Paul H. Riley
                    -Press release

     Social Security bill statement
          -Necessity for taxes to balance spending
                -Congress
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           -Veto strategy
     -Elliot L. Richardson
           -Education, health
     -House Resolution [HR] 1
           -Social Security increase

Necessity for budget cuts
    -Model cities
    -Amount of Social Security increase
    -Public broadcasting
    -Model cities
    -Urban renewal
    -Day care
    -OEO
    -Forthcoming message
    -Spending ceiling
    -University grants
           -Advisory committees
                -HEW
    -Effects on economy
           -Timing
                -Urban renewal
                -1974, 1975
                -October 1. 1972
                    -Announcements

Social Security
     -Bill signing
            -Compared to veto
            -Budget cuts
     -Date of checks
     -Notice in envelopes
            -Wording
                 -Past practice in California
                     -Franchise tax board
                             -Legislature
                 -Credit to Administration
                     -Social Security Administration [SSA]
                             -Robert M. Ball
                             -Colson’s previous action
                                   -Unknown project
                                         -Presidential statement
                             -Presidential quote
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     -Numbers of recipients
     -Bill signing
            -Possible veto

Budget
    -1973, 1974, 1975
         -Possible vetoes

Instructions for Weinberger
      -Forthcoming calls to Cabinet officers
            -Veto message
            -Budget
                 -Increases
                 -Cuts
            -The President's directive
                 -Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
                      -Possible vetoes
                 -Department program cuts

Defense spending
    -Meat purchase cuts
    -HEW
          -Hospitals
    -Weinberger memorandum
    -Press coverage

OMB
   -Weinberger’s forthcoming call to H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

Forthcoming budget announcements
     -Weinberger’s forthcoming call to Haldeman
           -Frank C. Carlucci
           -Timing
                -Democratic National Convention
                -Cabinet officers’ roles
                -Meeting with food retailers and chain store executives
     -Strategy and proposed message
     -Debt ceiling, 1974
           -Cabinet

1974 budget ceilings
    -HEW
    -HUD
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          -HR 1

     The President’s schedule

     Social Security bill
          -Winston S. Churchill's statement on electoral defeat
                -Conversation with wife
                      -Potsdam
          -Signing
          -The President’s conversation with Clark MacGregor
                -Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
                      -Veterans bill
          -Budget
                -Congressional spending
                      -Veto strategy
                      -Debt ceiling extension
                          -October 31, 1972
                          -Possible special session of Congress
                                  -Timing

Weinberger left at 11:53 am.

     Social Security increases
          -Budget
                -Congressional spending
          -The President's press conference June 29 1972
                -Briefing book
                      -Domestic Council
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Patrick J. Buchanan
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower's vetoes
                -Overrides
                      -Social Security
          -Future vetoes
                -Cost of living

     Weinberger
         -Political sensibilities
                -Colson
                     -Veterans, Social Security
                -Compared to George P. Shultz
                     -Treasury Department
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     Social Security
          -Mailings
                -Bureaucrats
          -Ball
                -Reappointment
                -Previous mailing
                     -Colson
                -SSA

The President left and returned at an unknown time before 11:56 am.

     The President’s schedule

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 11:53 and 1:56
am.

[Conversation No. 746-16C]

[See Conversation No. 26-38]

[End of telephone conversation]


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The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 11:56 am and 11:59 am.

[CONVERSATION NO. 746-16D]

[SEE CONVERSATION NO. 26-39]

[End of telephone conversation]


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Colson left at 12:15 pm.