Conversation No. 747-6

Date: July 19, 1972
Time: 11:41 am - 12:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John G. Veneman, Merlin K. DuVal, Marie Callender, Arthur S.
Flemming, James H. Cavanaugh, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. Members of the press and the White
House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.

      Introductions

      Seating arrangements for photograph session

      [Photograph session]

      Health care for aged
           -Doctors, nurses, hospitals
           -Needs
                 -Visits
           -Depression
                 -Psychiatry
                 -Religion
                       -The President's attendance at a church in San Clemente
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                           -Volunteering
          -Unknown woman
                -Experience working in health field
          -Volunteerism
          -Youth
          -The President’s speeches in Chicago, June 25, 1972 and New Hampshire, August 6,
                1971
          -Callender
          -Federal standards for nursing homes
                -Federal funding
                      -Medicare
                -States that have met federal standards
                      -Survey
                           -Pennsylvania
                           -New York, Massachusetts
                -New York nursing homes
                      -Robert Nicholas
                      -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                      -Litigation with the courts
                           -Federal payments
                      -Role of Rockefeller
                -Massachusetts
                -Ohio
          -Effect of government involvement with nursing homes
                -Federal compliance
          -Nursing homes not complying with federal standards
                -Number
                -Homes shut down
          -Congressional appropriations for nursing homes
                -Intermediate care facilities
                -Medical care
          -New York's current history with nursing homes
          -Current problems in nursing home industry
                -State-federal relationship
                -Enforcement program
          -Health and housing problems of the aged
                -Financial problems
                      -Median family income

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:41 am.

     The President’s schedule
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Bull left at an unknown time before 12:17 pm.

          -Conflict over available nursing home space compared to enforcing government
                standards
                -Elliot L. Richardson
          -Federal and state appropriations
          -Caliber of nursing home staff
          -Quality of care for aged
          -Callender, DuVal
          -Federal standards
          -Callender
                -Her career in nursing home affairs
                      -California
                      -Education
                           -University of California, Los Angeles [UCLA]
                                  -Los Angeles Disables Veterans Home [Sawtelle]
                      -Job experience
                           -University of Connecticut, New York, Yale University
          -Regional directors of Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
                -Relationship with the President
          -Nursing job field
                -Pay
                -Respect

An unknown woman entered and left at an unknown time before 12:17 pm.

               -Recruitment
                    -Curriculum
               -Technology
               -Article in New York Times by William Shannon "New Barbarians"
                    -Schools of education
          -Nursing home programs
          -Speeches
               -Human anecdotes
                    -Effect on service providers
          -Dependency of the elderly
               -Anxiety

     The President's anecdote
          -Duke University

     Health care for aged
          -Federal responsibility to aged
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               -Effect of taxes and prices on aged
               -Concern for people


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    Health care for aged
         -Needs of the aged
               -Involvement of youth, volunteer groups

    Sawtelle


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    Health care for aged
         -Needs
               -Visits
         -Nurses and paraprofessionals
               -Pay
               -Rewards

         Farewells
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     Sports
          -Basketball
               -UCLA
                     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
          -Football
               -Yale University
          -University of Arizona

     Presentation of gifts by the President
          -Steuben glass
                -Walter H. Annenberg
                      -Design
          -Leonid I. Brezhnev
          -Cufflinks

     Callender’s schedule
          -Soviet Union
                -National character
                -Social status of women

     Soviet Union
          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                -Visits to hospitals, pioneer camps
          -Social welfare

     Foreign policy
          -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Paris

Veneman et al. left at 12:17 pm.