Conversation: 750-013
Prev: 750-012 Next: 750-014Start Date: 21-Jul-1972 4:20 PM
End Date: 21-Jul-1972 4:59 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Woods, Rose Mary; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On July 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:20 pm to 4:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 750-013 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 750-13
Date: July 21, 1972
Time: 4:20 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Kissinger's schedule
-Past meeting
-Kissinger's departure
-Briefing
Kissinger's meeting with Michael J. Mansfield
-Mansfield's trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]
-The President's approval
-Mansfield’s relationship with Kissinger and the President
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 16s ]
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Kissinger's meeting with group of eight senators
-Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr.
-Ted Stevens
-John Sherman Cooper
Administration's legislative activities
-Mansfield's concern about possible defeat of Administration's proposals
-Labor interests
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
Kissinger's meeting with eight senators
-Vietnam War
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Senators' reception of Kissinger's remarks
-Tone
-Negotiations
-Kissinger's assessment of Mansfield Amendment
-Advisability of passage
-Mansfield's remarks to meeting
-Mansfield’s relationship with the President
-Mansfield Amendment
-Chance of passage
Mansfield Amendment
-Efforts of administration’s supporters in Congress
-Ceasefire
-John C. Stennis
-Hugh Scott
-Impact on Paris negotiations
-1972 election
-George S. McGovern
-Administration's view
-Advice to Congressional supporters
-Possible vote
-McGovern
Kissinger's luncheon with Eugene J. McCarthy
-McCarthy's view of McGovern
-Catholics, Jews in high office
-McCarthy's assessment of Methodism
-McGovern’s domestic programs
-McGovern's economic advisors
-McCarthy’s view
-McGovern on American troops in Europe
-McCarthy's view
Vietnam negotiations
-McCarthy's view
-Administration's present view
-Democratic Party platform
-Communists in Vietnam
-South Vietnamese elections
-McCarthy's advice
-Administration's conduct
-McCarthy's possible assistance to Administration
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Discussion in Paris with Vietnamese communists
-McCarthy’s relationship to peace movement
-Public support in US
-McCarthy's view of McGovern supporters
-Behavior at Democratic National convention
-Treatment of McCarthy
-McCarthy's suggestions concerning Latin America
-The President's assessment of McCarthy
Kissinger's schedule
-Howard Stein
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 22s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Kissinger’s trip to Moscow
-Scheduling and length
-September 1972
-Scheduling of announcement
-Labor Day
Negotiations for peace
-Private meetings
-Benefit to administration
-Scheduling
-William J. Porter to accompany Kissinger
-Kissinger’s intention
-Assumptions of other negotiators
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Republican National Convention
-The President’s schedule
-West Coast
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Kissinger’s trip to Japan
-Scheduling
-State Department
-Need to secure Kakuei Tanaka’s permission
-Tanaka’s approval
State Department and President's plans
-William D. Eberle
Kissinger’s conversation with Jerrold L. Schecter
-Negotiations for peace
-Reliability of Time’s informants
Dan Anders Holmberg’s report of American bombing
-Coverage by National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-North Vietnam
-Sluice-gate near Hanoi
-Civilian quarters of Hanoi
-Attitude of American public
The President's meeting with new South Vietnamese ambassador [Tran Kim Phoung]
-Ambassador’s children and wife
-Kissinger
-Nguyen Van Thieu's plans
-Marshall Green
-William P. Rogers
Vietnam War
-Recent military engagement
-News summary
-Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN]
-Route 1
-North Vietnamese
-Casualties
-Military casualties
-South Vietnamese
-North Vietnamese
-Developing battle
-North Vietnamese
-Reinforcements
-312th Division
-Plain Des Jarres
-American leaflet dropping
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Bombing by American B-52s
-320th training division
-Experience
-Present military campaign
-Communist attempt to seize Hue
-Communist attempt to retake Quang Tri
-ARVN
-Fortifications in city
-Citadel
-Communists’ estimated casualties
-ARVN’s offensive
-Air support
-Other results for communists
-Failed attempt to seize Kontum
-An Loc
-Road
-Vietnamese people
-Horrors of war for children
-Kissinger’s development of proposals for negotiating with communists
-Negotiations
-Kissinger’s development of proposals
-The President’s January 25, 1972 peace proposals
-Presentation
-Thieu
-Re-election
-Publicity
-1972 election
-Soviet Union
-Press relations
-Strengthening of American demands
-Schechter
-Implementary provisions of accords
-Ceasefire, election, electoral commission
-Prolonging war
-1972 election
-Effect on peace offer
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:40 pm.
Kissinger's talk with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Kissinger’s forthcoming visit
-Draft treaty on nuclear weapons
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National security]
[Duration: 22s ]
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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-Contingency
-Signing
-Timing
-October 1972
-Television
-Satellite coverage
-President
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
Kissinger’s efforts
-The President’s schedule
-California
-Dealings with McCarthy and Mansfield
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Dealings with doves
The President's conversation with Kissinger
-Scott
-Proposed compromise
-Cease-fire
-Stennis
-Mansfield amendment
-William E. Timmons, Clark MacGregor
Kissinger's conversation with Mansfield
-Senatorial support for Mansfield Amendment
-Upcoming trip to PRC
-Mansfield's support for Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s comments at meeting with Senators
-Duration of Mansfield's support
-Support by other senators
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[Duration: 52s ]
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-Mansfield Amendment
-Mansfield’s support
-Chance of passage in Senate
-Compromise
-House of Representatives
-Effect on peace negotiations
-Benefits of passage to the President's administration
-McGovern's possible vote
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 13s ]
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Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra's farewell performance
-Songs from Sinatra's career
-Tommy Dorsey
-Audience's reaction to I Did It My Way
-Audience's reception
-Possible television appearance
-Secret Service agents
-Haldeman's view
-Preceding entertainers
-Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope
-Cary Grant
-James (“Jimmy”) Stewart
-Barbra Streisand
-Kissinger’s view
-Kissinger's arrival in US as refugee
-Kissinger's past and future efforts
-Contact with McCarthy
-McGovern
Kissinger left at 4:49 pm.
Election campaign of 1972
-Poll
-Voters' approval of the President
-Administration's May 1972 poll
-Cause of increase
-Moscow summit
-Latest George H. Gallup polls
-The President's actions concerning Vietnam
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern
-Compared to latest poll by Gallup
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
-Voters' comparison of the President with McGovern and George C.
Wallace
-Compared to Gallup poll
-Two-way race
-Nixon-Agnew versus McGovern-Thomas F. Eagleton
Poll
-Voters' view of capital punishment
-Result of Gallup poll in March 1972
-Compared to polls in earlier years
-Capital punishment for specific crimes
-US Supreme Court decision
-Voters' view
-Impact on crime
-Criminal results of court's decision
-Voters' view of amnesty for draft-dodgers and others
-McGovern
-Voters' view of McGovern's proposals
-Immediate withdrawal from Vietnam
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Federal subsidy of personal income through personal income taxes
-Legalization and control of marijuana
-Alcohol
-Removal of legal strictures against abortion
-Patrick J. Buchanan's view
-McGovern’s position
-The President's opinion
-Catholics
-Buchanan’s view
-Amnesty for draft dodgers
-Prison
-Defense budget
-Cuts
-Soviet Union
-Gallup poll
-Busing of school-children
-Democratic National Convention
-McGovern’s speech
-Likelihood to vote for McGovern because of Democratic National Convention
-Genuine representation at Democratic National convention of voters
-Political innovation of Democratic National Convention
-Number of questions
-Sample size
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar-02)
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:55 pm.
The President's departure for Camp David
-Item
-Retrieval by Butterfield
John N. Mitchell
-Haldeman’s schedule
-Talk with Haldeman
Rose Mary Woods entered at 4:56 pm.
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
Butterfield left at 4:57 pm.
-Health
-Possible telephone call from Woods
-Schedule
Woods left at 4:58 pm.
Watergate
-Testimony
-Further information
The President’s schedule
-Camp David
-John B. Connally
-Accommodations
Stephen B. Bull entered at 4:58 pm.
-Transportation
Haldeman and Bull left at 4:59 pm.