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Start Date: 1-Aug-1972 10:09 AM

End Date: 1-Aug-1972 10:31 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Richardson, Elliot L.Egeberg, Roger O.Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.Cavanaugh, James H.White House photographerBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

758-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Elliot L. Richardson, Roger O. Egeberg, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:09 am to 10:31 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 758-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 758-7

Date: August 1, 1972
Time: 10:09 am - 10:31 am
Location: Oval Office
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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The President met with Elliot L. Richardson, Roger O. Egeberg, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and James
H. Cavanaugh. The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

             Soviet Union-US health research agreement
                 -The President's thanks
                 -Importance
                 -Compared to US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] exchanges
                      -Accupuncture
                 -Effect on U.S. public opinion
                      -Egeberg’s view
                           -Discussion compared to confrontation
                           -Soviet Union, PRC
                           -Romania
                           -Yugoslavia
                           -Poland
                 -Poland
                      -Importance
                      -Egeberg’s possible meeting with the Polish ambassador
                      [Jerzy Michalowski]
                 -Egeberg’s possible meeting with Warsaw Pact representatives
                      -Benedictov (sp ?) (Soviet Deputy Minister of Health)
                           -Invitation to Committee on the Challenges of Modern Society
                           [CCMS]
                           -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
                           -Warsaw Pact
                 -Soviet attitude
                 -Chou En-Lai
                      -Interest in heart disease
                      -Life
                           -Long March
                 -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                 -Interest in cancer research
             -Press reaction
                 -Compared to arms agreement
             -Exchange of information with Soviets
                 -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
                 -Changes in nature of exchanges
                      -Science
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                      -Technology
                      -Health
                      -Space
                          -Space shuttle
                 -David
                      -Establishment of framework for US-Soviet Union
                      Joint Commission on Science and Technology
                          -Cooperative nature of new exchanges of information
             -Phases of US-Soviet Union health research exchanges
                 -Confrontation
                 -Negotiation
                      -Exchange
                 -Cooperation
                      -US and Soviet doctors
                      -US and Polish doctors

             Hungarians
                -Isidor I. Rabi
                -Edward Teller

             Us-Soviet Union relations
                 -Health field
                     -Trip by cancer specialists to the Soviet Union
                     -James W. Symington's committee [Subcommittee on Science, Research
                     and Development?]
                          -Trips by US and Soviet doctors
                               -Reaction by committee
                 -Soviet Minister of Health [Boris V. Petrovsky]
                     -Visit to US
                          -Egeberg’s role
                          -Possible dinner
                               -Blair House
                          -Possible visit with the President
                               -Henry A. Kissinger, Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                               -Issue of Soviet dissidents
                                    -Confinement in mental hospitals
                                           -Haig

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:09 am.
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             Forthcoming press briefing by Richardson and Egeberg

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:31 am.

             Forthcoming visit by Petrovsky to the US
                 -Possible meeting with the President
                     -The President’s view
                          -Length of possible meeting
                               -Bolivia
                               -Congo
                     -Richardson’s view
                          -US-Soviet Union scientific and technical agreement, May 24, 1972
                          -Haig
                     -The President’s view
                          -Issue of confinement of dissidents in mental hospitals
                               -Example of California
                                   -Mental health commitments in Northern California
                                   compared to Southern California
                          -Photograph session

             Egeberg
                -Forthcoming press briefing
                -CCMS activities
                     -Tour of NATO countries
                          -Visits with health ministers
                -Daniel P. Moynihan
                -International health organizations
                     -United Nations [UN]
                     -World Health Organization [WHO]
                     -Ethnic makeup of health organizations
                          -Egeberg’s view
                     -Representatives from the US and Great Britain
                          -Public health officers
                              -Egeberg’s view
                                   -Typhoid
                                   -Malaria
                                   -Arteriosclerosis
                                   -Traffic accidents
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                  -Delivery of health care
    -Programs
         -Automation of laboratory procedures
         -Automation of triage
         -Emergency care
              -San Diego
              -Kaiser Institute
                  -Oakland
              -San Diego
         -Definition of triage
              -Spanish Civil War
         -Triage
              -Ability to discern status of patient
                  -Well
                  -“Worried well”
                  -Early sick
                  -Sick
              -France
              -West Germany
                  -Nationwide annual medical exams
              -Uses of nurses
                  -Blood
                  -X-rays
                  -Blood pressure
                  -Medical history
-Soviet Union and PRC interest in health matters
    -Accupuncture
    -Cancer research
    -Need for exchange and cooperation
         -Possible cancer cure
-NATO meeting
    -San Diego
    -San Francisco
         -Kaiser Institute
    -San Diego
         -Emergency care project
         -Possible visit by the President
              -CCMS
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

             Presentation of gifts

Egeberg, Cole, and Cavanaugh left at an unknown time before 10:31 am.

             Richardson
                 -Previous speech to Urban League
                     -St. Louis
                     -George Wiley
                          -National Welfare Rights Organization
                     -Vernon E. Jordan, Jr.
                          -The President's meeting with Whitney M. Young, Jr.
                 -Polls
                     -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                     -Health

Richardson left at 10:31 am.