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Start Date: 8-Aug-1972 5:19 PM

End Date: 8-Aug-1972 5:44 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Petrovsky, Boris V.Dobrynin, Anatoliy F.Richardson, Elliot L.Egeberg, Roger O.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

765-025.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Boris V. Petrovsky, Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, Elliot L. Richardson, Roger O. Egeberg, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:19 pm to 5:44 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 765-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 765-25

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: 5:19 pm - 5:44 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Soviet delegation
            -Size

       Elliot L. Richardson’s schedule
              -Forthcoming dinner at Soviet embassy
              -Possible trip to Camp David
              -Forthcoming dinner at Soviet embassy

Boris V. Petrovsky, Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, Richardson and Roger O. Egeberg entered at 5:20
pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Greetings and introductions

       Seating

       [Photograph session]

       Petrovsky's trip to the US
             -Participation in open heart surgery
                   -Dr. Michael E. DeBakey
             -Visit to Disneyland
             -Kaiser Permanente
             -Baylor College of Medicine
             -Center for Disease Control [CDC]
                   -Atlanta
             -DeBakey
                   -Previous trips to the Soviet Union
                   -Petrovsky’s friendship with DeBakey

       US-Soviet Union exchanges on health
           -Importance
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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             -US cooperation with Soviet Union
             -Benefits to humanity

Kissinger left at 5:24 pm.

             -Egeberg’s previous trips to the Soviet Union
             -Medical information and research
                  -Petrovsky’s visits to US medical centers
                        -Progress in medical research
                        -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Health
                              -Bronx, New York
                        -Kaiser Foundation
                              -San Francisco
                        -Proximity to population
                        -Preventive medicine

       The President’s previous visit to the Soviet Union

Kissinger entered at 5:27 pm.

             -The President's and Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's impressions
                  -Health of Soviet people

       Soviet health care system
            -Uniform distribution of care
            -Petrovsky's tenure as Health Minister
                   -Authority over Soviet doctors
                   -Length of tenure

       Petrovsky's visit to the US, August 1965
             -Notice of appointment as Health Minister
                   -Publication of Petrovsky’s photograph in the newspaper

       The President's message to Soviet leaders
            -Leonid I. Brezhnev
            -Aleksei N. Kosygin
            -Nikolai V. Podgorny
            -Importance of health of Soviet leaders
                  -Hunting and fishing
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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Nov-03)

           -Petrovsky’s view as Health Minister
                 -Current health of Soviet leaders
           -Stamina of Soviet leaders
           -Soviet policy of vacations for leaders
                 -Brezhnev
                 -Vacation areas
                       -Black Sea
                       -Moscow resort
                       -Crimean Sea
                       -Mountains

Brezhnev
     -Desire to drive own car
           -The President’s view
                 -The President’s previous meeting with Brezhnev
           -Driving conditions in Moscow
                 -Kissinger’s view

US–Soviet Union relations
    -Joint initiatives on health
          -Precedent for other initiatives
    -Petrovsky’s forthcoming meetings with US officals
          -Soviet research
                  -Cancer
                  -Cardiovascular disease
                  -Influenza
                  -Other infectious diseases
                  -Arthritis
                  -Allergies

Cancer research
     -Robert A. Taft, Sr.
     -John Foster Dulles

Arthritis
      -Allen W. Dulles
      -Christian A. Herter
      -Possible US-Soviet Union medical cooperation
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

       Gifts
               -Presidential seal
                     -Cuff links

       White House
            -Exhibit
                  -Possible tour by Petrovsky
            -Mrs. Nixon


Petrovsky et al., left at 5:44 pm.

       Camp David meeting
           -Richardson's attendance
           -Robert J. Dole

Richardson left at 5:44 pm.