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Start Date: 6-Sep-1972 9:53 AM

End Date: 6-Sep-1972 12:38 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Colson, Charles W.Ehrlichman, John D.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Oval Office

771-005a.mp3

771-005b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Charles W. Colson, John D. Ehrlichman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:53 am to 12:38 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 771-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 771-5

Date: September 6, 1972
Time: 9:53 am - 12:38 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

             Murders of Israeli athletes at Olympic Games in Munich
                -William P. Rogers’s schedule
                     -Statement at hijacking conference
                     -Possible meeting with the President
                     -Soviet Union issues
                                                 17

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)

                     -Israeli reaction
                          -Kissinger’s conversation with Yitzhak Rabin
                          -Trip to Tel Aviv
                               -Funeral
                                    -Willy Brandt
                                    -Kissinger’s view

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 10:02 am.

                -Moshe Dayan’s previous talk with US charge de affairs
                -Effect on peace talks
                     -The President’s view
                          -Possible Israeli action
                -United Nations [UN] action
                     -International hijacking conference
                     -UN Security Council
                -Kissinger’s schedule
                     -Forthcoming talk with Rabin
                          -Rogers’s schedule
                               -UN
                          -Golda Meir’s statement
                               -Continuation of Olympic Games
                               -World opinion
                               -Israeli position
                                    -Israeli action
                                      -Beirut
                -Statement
                -UN action
                     -Votes in support
                          -Soviet Union
                -Rogers’s role
                     -The President’s recent conversation with Haldeman

            Kissinger’s role in foreign policy
                -Rogers
                -Edward R.G. Heath
                -Brandt
                -Soviet Union
                    -Nuclear agreement
                    -Discussion with allies
                    -Paris peace talks
                                18

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Oct-06)

    -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to West Germany and the Soviet Union
        -Announcements
            -European Security Conference
            -Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
            -Trade agreement
            -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]

Murders of Israeli athletes at Olympic Games in Munich
   -The President’s previous conversation with Haldeman
        -Rogers
        -UN action
   -US flag
        -John V. Lindsay
        -Congressional action
        -The President’s view
        -Irish nationalist
             -Belfast schoolchildren’s death
                  -Irish reaction
        -Lod airport incident
        -Kissinger’s view
        -Public opinion
             -Rogers
   -The President’s possible personal action
        -Church prayer
             -Publicity
             -Purpose
                  -Meaning
                  -Kissinger’s view
                  -Involvement of US government
   -US flag
        -Pakistan and Kashmir
        -Vietnam
             -Deaths of US soldiers
        -Precedent
        -Lindsay
             -Jewish community
             -Deaths of Kent State University demonstrators
        -White House image with Israelis
             -The President’s previous call to Meir
             -Staff meeting
                  -Herbert Stein
                                 19

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Oct-06)

                   -Clark MacGregor
    -Political situation
         -Stein’s view
              -US Jewish interest
              -Israeli interest
                   -Middle East peace settlement
              -Rogers
              -Diplomatic viewpoint
              -Staff meeting
              -Jewish votes
              -Kissinger’s view
         -Kissinger’s understanding
              -Jewish background
         -The President’s understanding
              -Quaker background
         -Kissinger’s understanding
              -Israeli government
                   -Middle East peace settlement
                   -Effect on Jewish community
    -Settlement interest
         -Rabin

Kissinger’s schedule
    -Forthcoming trip to Munich and Moscow
        -Meeting with Brandt
        -Olympic Games
             -Delay in trip
        -West German government schedule
        -Brandt
        -Bonn
        -Attendance at Olympic Games
        -Israeli request
        -Public relations
             -Jewish background
        -Meeting with Brandt
             -Location
                  -Munich
                  -Bonn
    -Talk with Rabin
        -Position
    -Rogers
                                               20

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Oct-06)

                      -UN
                  -Kissinger’s schedule
                      -Unknown person
                      -Japanese

             News story
                -William J. Porter
                -Charles W. Colson
                -Joseph W. Alsop

Kissinger left and Stephen B. Bull entered at 10:12 am.

             Colson's schedule

Bull left at 10:12 am.

             Release of document
                 -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Abram F. Chayes

             Role of National Security Council [NSC] advisor
                 -Rogers
                      -Possible meeting with the President
                 -Haldeman’s view
                 -Kissinger
                      -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                      -1972 election
                      -Haig
                           -Role
                      -Haldeman’s role
                      -Staff

             Murder of Israeli athletes at Olympic Games in Munich
                -Effect on Presidential campaign
                     -George S. McGovern
                          -Colson
                          -Schedule
                               -Los Angeles
                                    -Board of rabbis
                                    -Politics of Munich incident
                -Meir’s statement
                                             21

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

                     -Continuation of Games
                 -White House position
                 -Handling
                     -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                         -Attica prison riot
                         -Press
                              -Early report
                              -Network’s report

Colson entered at 10:16 a.m.

             Document release
                -Alsop
                -Chayes
                -Source
                     -Kenneth W. Clawson
                     -State Department
                     -Possibility of leak
                -Utilization
                     -Newsweek interest
                          -Alsop and Stewart J.O. Alsop
                     -Howard K. Smith
                          -European security
                -Circumstances
                -Paris
                     -Associated Press [AP] coverage
                     -Kissinger
                          -Chayes
                          -Release
                -European reporter
                -Reuters
                -Interest in Europe
                     -Interest in US
                          -Smith
                -Newsweek
                -Joseph Alsop
                -Development of story
                     -Impact on Europe
                          -Jews
                          -Troop cuts
                                           22

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National security]
[Duration: 15s      ]

                -FOREIGN AFFAIRS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO.4

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                -Clawson
                -White House involvement
                    -Colson's office

            Watergate
               -Washington Post
               -McGovern
               -Murders of Israeli athletes
                    -Coverage
                    -John N. Mitchell
                    -Coverage
               -Daniel L. Schorr’s question
                    -Mitchell’s correction
                    -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] and Metromedia
                    -CBS
                        -Frank Stanton
                             -Influence
                    -John D. Ehrlichman

Haldeman talked with Ehrlichman at an unknown time between 10:16 am and 10:25 am.

[Conversation No. 771-5A]

            Ehrlichman's schedule
                -Oval Office
                                             23

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

[End of telephone conversation]

             Document release
                -Joseph Alsop
                -Reuters
                -Smith

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:16 am.

             Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:25 am.

             Television
                 -Residuals
                 -Ehrlichman
                 -Forthcoming memorandum
                 -Prime time access rule
                 -Contract renegotiation
                      -Screen Actors Guild
                 -Leverage
                 -Network productions
                 -Local programs

Ehrlichman entered at 10:25 am.

                 -Issue of residuals
                 -Letter to networks
                      -Administration policy
                      -John Gavin
                 -Clay T. (“Tom”) Whitehead
                      -Director, Office of Telecommunications
                      -Speech supporting Actors Guild
                      -Gavin
                           -The President's letter
                           -Message to networks
                               -The President’s view
                           -Screen Writers Guild
                           -Message to networks
                           -Hollywood productions
                           -Networks
                                24

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Oct-06)

    -Gavin
        -Conversation with the President at San Clemente
    -Anti-trust suit

Presidential campaign issues
    -Colson, Ehrlichman, Haldeman
    -The President's family
    -Cabinet officers
         -Emphasis on accomplishments of administration
              -National parks
              -Sickle Cell Anemia
              -Peace efforts
    -Positive issues
    -Quote from [Maurice] Harold MacMillan
         -Richard M. Seammon
         -Haldeman
         -Ehrlichman
    -Second term
         -Arms reduction
         -World peace
         -Environmental policies
         -Supreme Court appointments
    -McGovern
         -Offensive strategy
         -Lawrence F. (“Larry”) O'Brien, Jr’s advice
         -Responses to McGovern’s campaign
              -Undersecretaries of government departments
              -Ronald L. Ziegler
         -Effect of McGovern’s campaign
              -Standing
              -Taxes
              -Rich compared with poor
         -Barry F. Goldwater 1964 campaign comparison
              -Position changes
              -Support
              -Organization
              -Media support
                  -The President’s view
                  -Advantage for McGovern
    -Media
         -John [surname unknown]
                            25

    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                    Tape Subject Log
                      (rev. Oct-06)

     -Kenneth S. Rietz
     -Ziegler
     -Hugh Sidey
     -John F. Osborne
     -Press
          -The President’s view
               -Bias
               -McGovern
               -The President
          -White House social events
               -The President’s view
     -Clawson
     -John A. Scali
     -Herbert G. Klein
     -Ziegler
     -Jerrold L. Schecter and Sidey
     -Effort for McGovern
-Strategy for Nixon Administration
     -Attack on weak issues
     -McGovern
     -Ehrlichman
     -Effect of television
          -Print media
          -Last weeks of campaign
               -Television
     -Domestic issues
          -Welfare increases
          -Raising taxes
          -Unemployment and economy
          -Increased government spending
               -Tax increases
     -Concerted effort
          -Speakers for the President
          -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
     -Social issues
          -Amnesty
          -Marijuana
          -Polls
          -The President’s view
               -Catholics
               -Labor unionists
                        26

NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                Tape Subject Log
                  (rev. Oct-06)

     -Abortion
     -Supporters
          -Radicals
               -Blacks, youth
-Foreign policy
     -Strategy
          -Vietnam
               -R. Sargent Shriver
               -Lyndon B. Johnson's policy
               -The President's policy
               -Withdrawal of US forces
               -Support of Nguyen Van Thieu
               -Communist government
               -Advertising on issue
-Strategy
     -Welfare
          -George P. Shultz
          -Elliot L. Richardson
          -Peter G. Peterson
     -Weak areas of McGovern policies
          -Welfare
               -Racial implications
          -Taxes
               -Increases
          -Recession
          -Social issues
               -Amnesty
               -Marijuana
          -Foreign policy
               -Melvin R. Laird
                 -Defense employment
               -Defense policies
                 -Europe
          -The President’s view
-McGovern’s campaign
     -Previous statement of Shultz and Richardson
          -Taxes
          -Welfare
     -Treasury Department figures
     -New York
          -Radio debate
                                         27

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Oct-06)

                          -Pierre Rinfret
                     -Responding to the Nixon administration
                     -O'Brien
                          -Issues
                  -White House campaign
                     -New York
                          -Peterson's speech
                     -Stein
                          -Higher food prices
                          -Price controls
                          -Inflation
                     -Surrogate speakers
                          -Agnew
                               -Chayes
                               -Schedule
                                 -Labor union speech
                          -Republican Congressional candidates
                               -Recorded speech
                                 -Reaction


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 31m 14s    ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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          Watergate
             -General Accounting Office [GAO] investigation
                  -McGovern files


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                                         28

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Oct-06)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 37s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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          Campaign strategy
             -White House strategy
                 -Monitoring mail
                      -Source and amount of contributions
                      -GAO
                      -Post Office


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 12m 21s    ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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          Chayes report
             -Alsop
                  -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Joseph Alsop
             -NSC files


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
                                           29

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)

[Duration: 5m 40s    ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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            Issues
                -Second term policy
                     -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Joseph Alsop
                -1976 campaign
                     -Stuart Alsop
                     -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                -Congress
                -State of the Union
                     -Tax program
                          -Value-added Tax [VAT]
                     -Proposals
                     -Taxes
                -Shultz
                -Rogers
                -Speech for the International Monetary Fund [IMF]
                     -Rogers
                          -State Department
                     -White House staff
                     -Peter M. Flanigan
                     -Length
                     -Duration
                -Political coordination
                     -Robert J. Dole and Clark MacGregor
                     -Patrick J. Buchanan
                     -Ehrlichman
                          -Edwin L. Harper
                          -National security
                               -Haig's staff


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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 33m 46s    ]

Ehrlichman and Colson left at 12:18 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

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             Kissinger's schedule
                 -Forthcoming briefing
                 -Previous meeting with the President and Rogers
                     -Rogers
                           -Forthcoming Moscow trip
                           -Role
                           -Haig

Kissinger entered at 12:19 pm.

             Foreign policy

             Murder of Israeli atletes at Olympic Games
                -Kissinger’s meeting with Rabin
                     -Tel Aviv
                     -Rogers
                     -Haig
                     -Tape
                     -Rogers trip to the UN
                -State Department
                     -Peace offensive
                          -Cables
                          -Israeli actions
                          -1972 election
                -Soviet Union
                     -Egypt
                -Rogers image
                     -UN
                     -Vietnam
                                31

        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Oct-06)

              -The President’s view
         -UN meeting
              -Israelis
    -Israeli actions
         -Kissinger’s previous meeting with Rabin
         -Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashana)
         -Yom Kippur
         -Rogers
              -Haig

US-Soviet Union relations
   -Soviet trade agreement
       -Kissinger’s previous conversation with Dobrynin
             -Answer from Moscow
             -Timing of trade agreement
                 -SALT agreement
             -Communique following Kissinger’s visit to Moscow
                 -Maritime agreement
                 -Trade agreement
                 -European Security Conference
                 -Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
                     -Progress
                       -Compared with SALT

1972 Campaign
    -Soviet agreements
        -MBFR
             -Intellectuals
             -Effect of McGovern statements

Vietnam War
    -Peace negotiations
    -Hanoi
        -Possible settlement
        -Haig
        -Effect on election
            -McGovern
            -The President
    -Peace negotiations
        -Nguyen Van Thieu
            -Administration proposals
                                             32

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)

                           -Referendum
                                -US proposals
                      -Ellsworth F. Bunker
                      -South Vietnamese press
                           -McGovern
                           -North Vietnamese press
                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to Moscow
                           -Discussions
                           -Dobrynin
                                -Bombing halt
                      -Proposals
                           -Interval of talks
                      -Post-election policy
                           -Administration strategy
                           -Public opinion
                           -Ceasefire
                                -Possible forums
                                -Timing
                  -Vietnam issue
                      -Timing
                  -Possible agreement
                      -The President’s view
                      -Kissinger’s view
                      -Ceasefire
                      -Bombing

             Kissinger’s schedule
                 -Forthcoming trip to West Germany and the Soviet Union
                 -The People’s Republic of China [PRC] meeting

Kissinger left at 12:33 pm.

             1972 Campaign
                 -Effect of Vietnam ceasefire
                     -Haldeman’s view
                     -The President’s view
                     -Washington Post and New York Times
                     -Progress
                          -US bombing
                          -Haldeman’s view
                 -John B. Connally's schedule
                                               33

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

                    -Possible meeting with the President
                    -Ehrlichman
                        -Congressional leaders meeting
            Watergate
               -MacGregor
                    -Deposition
               -Mitchell
                    -Deposition
               -Ehrlichman

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:33 pm.

            The President's schedule
                -Executive Office Building

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:38 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 9s      ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

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The President and Haldeman left at 12:38 pm.