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Conversation: 774-017

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Start Date: 11-Sep-1972 12:05 PM

End Date: 11-Sep-1972 12:24 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)DeSilva, Joseph T.Usery, Willie J., Jr.Colson, Charles W.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

774-017.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Joseph T. DeSilva, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:05 pm to 12:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 774-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 774-17

Date: September 11, 1972
Time: 12:05 pm - 12:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Joseph T. DeSilva, Willie J. Usery, Jr., and Charles W. Colson.

[Stephen B. Bull and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.]

        Greetings

        Labor Department
            -Staff
            -John R. Steelman
            -DeSilva's view
                 -Staff

        Political endorsement
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    -Labor officials

Television
    -DeSilva's program
            -San Clemente

Economy
    -The President's recovery programs
        -Wage controls
    -Political implications
        -Retail Clerks International Association convention
              -Hawaii
              -Thomas F. Eagleton
              -James T. Housewright
                  -George S. McGovern
        -Republican National Convention
        -The President's recent Labor Day message
              -National Commission for Industiral Peace
    -DeSilva's meeting with Michael H. Moskow, James D. Hodgson
    -Wage stabilization program
        -DeSilva's view
        -Welfare
        -Increasing job opportunities
        -Welfare compared to foreign aid
              -United Nations [UN]

Central Labor Council of Los Angeles
    -Endorsement
         -DeSilva's view
         -McGovern
    -Unknown California labor official
    -John Hingt (?)
    -Ronald W. Reagan
         -DeSilva's endorsement
    -California
         -Growth of Retail Clerks Union
             -Housing
             -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
    -Franklin D. Roosevelt
         -Court packing plan
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    -Idea of balancing power
    -National Labor Relations Board [NLRB]
    -Working man
    -American Federation of Labor - Council of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
    -Courts
    -Republican and Democrat Presidents
    -Labor leadership
        -George Meany
             -DeSilva's view
        -AFL-CIO
             -Diversified rank and file
        -Voting patterns
             -McGovern
        -John L. Lewis
             -Roosevelt
             -Miners

Issues
     -Ending of Vietnam War
         -DeSilva's view

National patriotism
    -Chris Schenkel
         -American Boradcasting Company (ABC) News
         -The President's view
         -Idea of appreciation
    -Ray Seales
    -US track team
    -Harvey Harris

DeSilva's contacts
    -Support for the President
    -Gene Wynan
    -Thomas Kuchel
    -Forthcoming dinner
         -Wynan
             -Clarine V. Mills
         -Eagleton
         -Congressional races
    -Kuchel
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)


         DeSilva's background
             -California
             -New York
             -California
                  -Labor union work
             -1960
                  -Support for the President
                  -John F. Kennedy
                      -James R. ("Jimmy") Hoffa
             -Earl Warren, Goodwin Knight, Reagan
             -Administration support
                  -The President's view
                      -Usery
                      -Colson

         Job opportunities
              -Blacks
                  -Welfare
                  -Employment
              -Moskow
                  -Job Corps
              -Minorities involvement
                  -Olympic significance
                  -Wilt Chamberlain
              -Employment of blacks

         DeSilva's home
             -North Hollywood, California
             -James C. Corman

         Meeting
            -Cancellation

         Presentation of gifts

DeSilva et al. left at 12:24 pm.
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                                        Tape Subject Log
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