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Start Date: 15-Sep-1972 11:05 AM

End Date: 15-Sep-1972 11:22 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Carlson, Randy (Mrs.)Elman, BruceTaylor, RobertTravis, AliceCashen, Henry C., IIBull, Stephen B.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

778-017.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Mrs. Randy Carlson, Bruce Elman, Robert Taylor, Alice Travis, Henry C. Cashen, II, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:05 am to 11:22 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 778-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 778-17

Date: September 15, 1972
Time: 11:05 am - 11:22 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ray Charles, Bruce Elman, Robert Taylor, Alice Travis and Henry C.
Cashen, II.

         Charles concert in Washington DC
            -Greetings
                 -Elman
            -Wolf Trap
            -Tricia Nixon Cox's visit to concert
            -Maxwell Robb's daughter

         Press photograph

         Charles's anti-drug abuse and community efforts
            -The President's view
            -Washington, DC
            -Sickle cell anemia
                 -Milwaukee
            -Charles's music career
                 -Aid to drug abusers
                 -Mentally retarded children
                 -Pilgrim Center

         Charles's career
            -Early years
            -Compared to Sammy Davis, Jr.
                 -The President as Vice President
                 -Musical family
            -Interest in music
                 -Unknown person
                      -Influence on Charles
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)


         Charles's trip to Europe
            -Europeans' appreciation of American visits
            -The President's trip to Soviet Union
            -Czechoslovakia
                 -Prague
            -Hungary visit by Charles
                 -Budapest
                 -Universality of music
                      -Charles' view
            -Band
            -Raylettes
            -Personnel changes
            -Music
                 -The President's view
                 -Russian ballet
                      -Compared to Chinese ballet
            -European radio stations
                 -Charles' view
                 -Compared to American stations
                      -Russian music
            -Chinese music
                 -Compared to Japanese music
                 -Charles' view
                      -Kabuki dancers

         American radio stations
           -American view of foreign music
               -Need for exposure
                    -Charles' view
           -Desired use of foreign music
           -Nancy Hanks
           -Washington, DC
           -Likely effect on public
               -Parallels to rock-and-roll

Stephen B. Bull, the White House photographer and members of the press entered at an unknown
time after 11:05 am.

         Photograph
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)


Bull left at an unknown time before 11:22 am.

         Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins
            -Photograph

         Charles's world trips

         Children's Center
            -Washington, DC
            -Aid to children
            -New building
            -Construction
                -Watergate Associates
                -Aid for construction of building
                     -Maurice H. Stans influence
                          -Robert A. Podesta

         Charles's concert schedule
            -Pittsburgh
            -Richmond, Virginia
            -North Carolina
            -Dick Cavett Show
            -Prague

         Japanese
            -European influence

         East-West similarities
            -Advantages
            -Japan
            -China
            -Africa
            -Latin America
            -South America
            -Communication

         Appreciation of differing cultures
            -The President's view
           -Dangers of single-mindedness by US
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)


          Nixon's foreign visits

          Travel to People's Republic of China [PRC]
             -Possible Ray Charles visit
                  -The President's view
                  -Soviet Union

          White House photograph

          Parting remarks
             -Presidential cuff links
             -Presidential pin
             -Davis
             -Francis A. ("Frank") Sinatra

Charles et al. left at 11:22 am.