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Start Date: 18-Sep-1972 10:21 AM

End Date: 18-Sep-1972 11:18 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]White House operatorRogers, William P.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

781-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), White House operator, William P. Rogers, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:21 am to 11:18 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 781-6
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)


Date: September 18, 1972
Time: 10:21 am - 11:18 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. Haldeman.

            Benjamin Disraeli
                -Disraeli
                -Career
                    -William Gladstone
                    -Speech
                    -Social reforms
                         -Liberals
                         -Interest of British people

            Social reform
                -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                -John D. Ehrlichman
                -George P. Shultz
                -John B. Connally
                     -Action
                -Disraeli
                     -Robert Peel
                         -1830’s
                         -Property
                -Popular reaction
                -Samuel Lubell
                     -Individualism

            The President's visit to Villa Rosa rest home, September 17, 1972
                -The President's conversation with unknown Italian-American man
                    -Welfare
                -The President's speech
                    -Italian people
                         -Work ethic
                -Haldeman’s view
                    -Family
                -John A. Volpe
                -Lawrence J. Hogan
                    -Volpe
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)

                  -Scali
                  -Purpose
                       -Charge of hiding in White House
              -[William W. Gullet] unknown candidate
              -John A. Scali


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 34s        ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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              -The President’s view
              -Press coverage
                   -George S. McGovern
              -Italian-Americans
              -Marine Band
              -Visit by the President
              -Italian-Americans
                   -Sacrifices
                   -The President’s view
                        -Volpe
                        -Religious orientation
                        -Family

          Public relations
              -Ethnicity
              -Suburbia
                   -The President’s view
                   -San Marino
                   -Chicago
                   -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                   -Background of people living in suburbs
                   -The President’s view
                   -Robert H. Finch, Rumsfeld
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

                         -California
                         -Types of high schools
                             -San Marino
                                  -Compared to El Monte, Pico Rivera
                                    -The President’s campaigning


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 13m 42s    ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:21 am.

            Telephone call to Haldeman from William P. Rogers
                -The President's schedule
                    -Thai ambassador

Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 10:21 and 11:16
am.

[Conversation No. 781-6A]

            Request for a call to William P. Rogers

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:16 am.

Haldeman talked with Rogers at an unknown time between 10:21 am and 11:16 am.

            Telephone call
                -[Mrs. Nivasabute]

Haldeman conferred with the President at an unknown time.
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

             Rogers’s advice

[End of conferral]

             Capt. Surayute Nivasabute
                 -Spelling
                 -Telephone number

Haldeman conferred with the President at an unknown time.

   The President's schedule

[End of conferral]

             The President's schedule
                 -Telephone call to Surayute Nivasabute
                 -Timing
                     -News story

[End of telephone conversation]

             The President's schedule
                 -[Stefan Olszowski]
                 -Mrs. Nivasabute
                 -Surayute Nivasabute
                      -Hospital call
                      -Air attache Thai Embassy
                 -Olszowski
                      -Luncheon
                      -September 19, 1972 meeting
                           -Rogers
                 -Women surrogates
                      -Presentation of pins


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 17m 11s    ]
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Oct-06)


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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          Agricutlure Issue
              -Earl L. Butz's response
              -McGovern's farm policy
                   -Food prices
                        -Grain prices
                        -Corruption charges
                            -Watergate
              -Grain sales to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
              -Grain prices
                   -Farm belt
              -Butz’s speech on administration policies
                   -US-Soviet Union grain deal
                        -PRC
                            -Grain sales
                        -Japan
                   -Effect of peace initiatives on trade
              -Prices
              -Surpluses
              -Butz and McGovern
                   -Jack Benny and Fred Allen analogy
              -Herbert G. Klein
                   -“Crutch” charge
                        -McGovern
                        -Edward M. Kennedy
              -Butz


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 21s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Oct-06)


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          Issues
              -John D. Ehrlichman’s role
                  -Domestic council
              -Amnesty
              -Marijuana
              -Abortion
                  -Direct mail
                       -Catholics
              -Busing
              -Welfare
              -Blacks as potential voters
                  -Photographs
                  -William F. (“Billy”) Graham's views
                       -Businessmen
                  -Strategy
                       -Staff reaction
                       -Voting percentages


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 10s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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          The President's schedule
              -Miss America [Terry Ann Meeuwsen]
                  -Support for the President
                  -Tour
                       -Rose Garden
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Oct-06)

             1972 campaign
                 -The President’s memorandum to Haldeman
                     -Ehrlichman
                 -The President's and Haldeman's meeting with John W. Dean, III
                 -Cabinet and sub-Cabinet
                     -Personnel

Steve Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:21 am.

             Ronald L. Ziegler's schedule

The President left at an unknown time before 11:16 am.

             The President's schedule
                 -Photographs

Bull and Haldeman left at 11:16 am.