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Start Date: 18-Sep-1972 11:54 AM

End Date: 18-Sep-1972 12:16 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colmer, William M.Enger, Wallis M. (Adm.)Ryder, GeorgeNidecker, John E.White House photographerTimmons, William E.Sanchez, ManoloButterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

781-014.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, William M. Colmer, Adm. Wallis M. Enger, George Ryder, John E. Nidecker, White House photographer, William E. Timmons, Manolo Sanchez, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:54 am to 12:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 781-14

Date: September 18, 1972
Time: 11:54 am - 12:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William M. Colmer, Wallis M. Enger, George Ryder, and John E.
Nidecker.
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)


[The White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.]

            Greetings

            Seabees
                -Installations
                     -Santa Barbara, California
                          -Port Hueneme
                -The President's World War II experiences in South
                Pacific
                     -Guadalcanal, Vella Lavella, Green Island, Bougainville
                     -Seabee mess facilities
                     -Bravery

            [Photograph session]

            Memorial
               -Arlington, Virginia
                    -Memorial Bridge
               -Felix de Weldon

            Seabee Gazette
                -Ryder

            22nd Regiment
                -Commander White

            White
               -St. Lawrence Seaway

            Refreshments

            Seabees
                -Compared to Army Corps of Engineers

            Signing of House Joint Resolution [H.J. Res.] 55 bill
                -Honoring 1st US Naval Construction Brigade
                -Honorary Seabee
                    -Emblem
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

            [Photograph session]

            The President's naval experience
                -Tour of duty during World War II
                    -Seabees
                         -Guadalcanal, Vella Lavella, Bougainville, Green Island
                         -Bombing
                              -Work on airstrip

            Memorial

            [General conversation]

                 -New Jersey, New York
                    -New York Yankees, Brooklyn Dodgers

Enger, Nidecker, and Ryder left and William E. Timmons entered at 12:03 pm.

            Busing
                -Pending legislation
                    -Constitutional amendment
                        -Colmer’s view
                        -The President’s view
                        -Prospects
                        -Timing
                        -Moratorium
                    -James B. Allen
                        -House of representatives of Alabama
                        -Senate
                    -Political benefits
                    -The President’s policy

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:03 pm.

            Refreshments

Manolo Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:16 pm.

            Busing
                -Pending legislation
                    -Carl B. Albert’s efforts
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         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Oct-06)


Private bill
    -Colmer’s efforts
    -Relief of Claire Broll
         -Possible veto
             -Veteran’s affairs
         -Legislative history
         -Edward M. Kennedy
             -Fred R. Harris
                  -Democratic Party
         -Hugh Scott
         -Possible precedent
             -Colmer’s view
             -Background
                  -Lieutenant in Navy
                  -Transfer to Air Force as Captain
                  -Walter Reed Army Medical Center
                       -Women accepted as Volunteer Emergency Service
                       [WAVES]
                         -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s military staff
                       -Medical malpractice claim
                         -Eye operation
         -Report to the President
             -Defense Department

1972 campaign
    -Tricia Nixon Cox
         -Mississippi
    -Support from Mississippi
         -The President
         -Colmer's prediction on vote
    -Mississippi candidates
         -James O. Eastland
             -Gilbert Carmichael
                  -John N. Mitchell
         -John L. McClellan
         -Colmer's assistant, Trent Lott
             -Gerald R. Ford
         -Ballot
         -Eastland
             -The President
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Oct-06)

                  -Colmer
                      -Political dinner in Pascagula, October 28, 1972
                          -Ford
                          -Film
                          -Telephone call
                          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, Cox, Julie
                           Nixon Eisenhower
                          -Lott

             Presentation of gift by the President

             Legislative action
                 -Deadline

Colmer and Timmons left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 2:16.

             The President's schedule
                 -John H. Kyl, Don H. Clausen
                     -Forthcoming bill signing
                          -Photograph session
                          -White House gifts
                               -Pins
                                   -Wives
                               -Cuff links
                 -September 17, 1972 Italian festival
                     -Priest
                          -Watch

Butterfield left at 12:17 pm.