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Conversation: 783-004

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Start Date: 19-Sep-1972 10:39 AM

End Date: 19-Sep-1972 11:16 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bush, George H. W.Rogers, William P.Kissinger, Henry A.White House photographerWhite House operator

Recording Device: Oval Office

783-004.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, George H. W. Bush, William P. Rogers, Henry A. Kissinger, White House photographer, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:39 am to 11:16 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 783-4

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 10:39 am - 11:16 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George H.W. Bush, William P. Rogers, and Henry A. Kissinger.
Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the
meeting.

             Press

             The President’s recent meeting with Stefan Olszowski
                 -Edward Gierek

             [Photograph session]

             Terrorism
                 -United Nations [UN] General Assembly
                     -Arabs
                         -Israelis
                              -September 19, 1972 incident involving Israeli embassy official
                                   -Jewish Defense League
                                     -Meir Kahane
                                     -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                                     -Kahane
                                       -Israel
                                       -Recent statement
                                         -Effect
                                 5
        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

    -Thai embassy
        -Air Attache Surayute Nivasabute’s wife
             -Identity of attacker
        -Location
    -Police protection
        -Washington, DC
        -Executive Protective Service [EPS]
    -UN General Assembly
        -Commissioner
        -Protection
             -EPS
             -Lebanese diplomat
                  -Wife’s telephone call to Barbara (Pierce) Bush
    -Hijacking of Swedish airliner by Croats
        -Olof Palme
    -Recent incident at UN
        -Mail
    -Airplane bomb threat in Cyprus
        -Rome, Munich
    -Brussels incident
    -UN General Assembly
        -Security
             -Unknown Brooklyn man
                -1971 speech about the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
    -Postal service
        -Letter bombs
             -Israeli terrorists
                  -London

Soviet-Jewish emigration
    -The President’s recent meeting with Congressional leaders
         -Exit permits
    -US-Soviet Union relations
    -UN
         -Mail
         -General Assembly
             -Discrimination
    -US-Soviet Union trade agreement
         -Kissinger’s press conference
         -Exit fees
         -Submission to Congress
             -Soviet Union interest in Most Favored Nation [MFN] status
                                 6
        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

            -MFN legislation
                  -Timing
                  -Side negotiations on market disruptions
            -Abraham A. Ribicoff and Jacob K. Javits
                  -Export-import [EX-IM] bank credits
                      -Relation to exit fees
        -Jewish votes
        -Soviet domestic policies
            -Jews
            -Poland
            -Ukraine
        -Political considerations
            -1972 election
            -Javits
                  -Signing of agreement
            -Foreign policy
                  -Jewish leaders
                  -Soviet internal affairs

US-Soviet Union grain deal
   -The President’s recent meeting with Congressional leaders
       -John D. Ehrlichman
   -Size
       -Soviet union crop failure
   -US farmers
       -PRC
       -Japanese
            -Soybeans
       -Farm prices
   -Department of Agriculture
       -Allegation of conflict of interest
       -Soviet orders
            -Prices
       -Clarence N. Palmby [and Clifford G. Pulvermacher]
            -Departure
                 -Public view
       -Palmby
            -Continental Grain Co.
       -Shipping
            -Continental Grain Co.
                 -Deal with Soviet Union
                     -Possible maritime strike
                                 7
        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason
             -Lyndon B. Johnson administration
             -George S. McGovern
             -The President’s administration’s relations with Gleason, Jesse M.
            Calhoon
        -Palmby, Clifford M. Hardin, Earl L. Butz
        -Palmby’s departure
             -Timing
        -Statute of limitations
             -Duration

Issues before the UN
    -Bangladesh admission to UN
         -Yugoslavia
              -UN Security Council
         -PRC
    -Korea reunification
         -Debate deferment
              -Soviet Union
                  -1972 election
    -US budget assessment
         -Ceiling on contributions
              -Publicity
                  -Rogers’s statement
    -World disarmament conference
    -Middle East
    -World disarmament conference
         -PRC, Soviet Union
         -US position
    -Middle East
         -1972 election
    -World disarmament conference
         -Soviet proposal on disarmament
              -Effect on US allies
              -US-Soviet Union consultation
              -Geneva
              -PRC
                  -First strike
              -US consideration

Domestic issues
   -Public interest
                                  8
         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Nov-03)

         -Terrorism
         -Security for diplomats
         -Killing of Israeli athletes at 1972 Munich Olympic
          Games
         -Hijacking
         -Drugs

International terrorism
     -1972 election
     -Security for diplomats
          -Arabs
     -Arabs
          -UN votes
     -Israelis
     -Arabs
          -Barbara Bush’s telephone call to wife of unknown person
               -United Arab Emirates
          -Private assurances from the President
     -Compared to attack on Nivasabute’s wife

Soviet-Jewish emigration
    -Exit permits
         -US domestic groups
         -UN forum for Israel
             -Quality
         -Human rights commission
    -UN’s handling of nation’s internal affairs
         -Northern Ireland
             -United Kingdom
         -Burundi
             -Killings

Africa
    -Barundi
        -Killing of educated people
    -Tutsi and Hutu tribes
    -Uganda
        -Milton Obote
             -Guerrillas against Idi Amin
        -Amin
             -Whites
             -Expulsion of Asians
                                 9
        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

        -Arrests of Americans
        -Peace Corps killings
        -Associated Press [AP] reporter
        -Missionaries
    -Biafra
        -Catholics
    -Rhodesia
        -Concern of US blacks
    -South Africa
    -UN apathy
    -Uganda
        -Expulsion of Asians
            -India
            -Britain
            -South Africa
        -Amin’s speech on Adolf Hitler
            -Jews
                 -Possible evacuation of Americans
                      -Military plane
        -Amin
            -Education
    -Burundi
        -Bradford F. Morse of UN
        -Government policy
            -Killing of educated people
                 -African response
        -Kissinger’s former student’s experiences
            -Belgium
            -Lawyers
                 -Lack of interpreters
    -Winston S. Churchill
        -The President’s 1958 visit
            -Churchill’s health
            -United Kingdom
                 -British Commonwealth
                      -Ghana’s unification with Guinea

The President’s schedule
    -Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home Dinner
         -White House
             -Blue Room
    -Andrei A. Gromyko
                                                 10
                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. Nov-03)

                      -Camp David
                      -Visits by Soviets 1973
                      -Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
                      -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                      -Yuli M. Vorontsov
                 -Maurice Schumann
                 -Home
                 -Gromyko
                 -Italians [Giulio Andreotti]

Rogers and Kissinger left at 11:13 am.

             Prescott S. Bush
                 -Health
                      -Possible letter or telephone call from the President

The President talked with the White House operator at 11:17 am.

[Conversation No. 783-4A]

[See Conversation No. 30-1]

[End of telephone conversation]

             Prescott Bush's health
                 -Dorothy (Walker) Bush
                 -Prescott Bush’s view of the President

             1972 election
                 -George Bush’s efforts
                     -Speeches
                          -Foreign policy
                               -Press coverage
                 -Bush's future role
                     -Possible position
                          -Press
                          -The President’s schedule
                          -Public speculation
                               -Television

             Barbara Bush
                                              11
                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

Bush left at 11:17 am.