Conversation: 783-026
Prev: 783-025 Next: 783-027Start Date: 19-Sep-1972 3:42 PM
End Date: 19-Sep-1972 5:41 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Timmons, William E.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Connally, John B.; MacGregor, Clark; Christian, George E.; Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, William E. Timmons, Henry A. Kissinger, John B. Connally, Clark MacGregor, George E. Christian, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:42 pm to 5:41 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-026 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 783-26
Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 3:42 pm - 5:41 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and William E. Timmons.
Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] bill
-Possibility of sustaining veto
-Jacob K. Javits
-OEO
-The President’s view
-Domestic Council staff
-Labor
-Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., John D. Ehrlichman
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Charles W. Colson
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 3:43 pm.
Memoranda on trade
-The President's signature
Rose Mary Woods
[Signing memoranda]
Kissinger’s security
-Secret Service protection
-Eugene T. Rossides
-Information on possible attack on Jewish person
-George S. McGovern's staff
-Blame on administration
-The President's earlier meeting with George Bush
-Arabs
-Al-Fatah
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Intelligence reports
-Haldeman
-Secret Service
-Social activities
-McGovern, R. Sargent Shriver
-Safety
McGovern's campaign
-Soviet-Jewish emigration
-William L. Safire's reception for the press
-Max Frankel
-Crowds
-Political preference
Kissinger’s security
-Schedule
-1972 election
-Announcements
Charles H. Percy fund raiser
US-Soviet Union trade agreement
-Kissinger's call from Bryce N. Harlow
-Carl B. Albert’s conversation with Dr. Thomas E. (“Doc”) Morgan
-Morgan
-Conference
-Conference
-Javits amendment
-House of Representatives
-Morgan
-Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
-Language
-Agreement compared to treaty
-Soviets
-Legislative strategy
-Morgan
-Albert
-Conversations with conferees
-Forthcoming meetings with Peter H.B. Frelinghuysen and William S.
Mailliard
-Schedule
-Soviets
-Schedule
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Kissinger's schedule
-New York
-Meeting [with People’s Republic of China] [PRC] [officials]
News summary item
-McGovern supporters at Democratic National Convention
-George S. Meany comment
Kissinger's schedule
-Jill St. John
-Nancy Maginnes
The PRC
-Women
Kissinger left at 3:52 pm.
OEO bill
-Changes in provisions
-Weinberger’s view
-Cole’s view
-Probability of sustaining veto
-1972 election
-Shriver
-Weinberger
-Cole
-Victory margin
-Mandatory funding issue
-Congressional leaders
Water bill
-Gerald R. Ford
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Justice Department review
-Mandatory spending issue
-Budget effect
-Congressional leaders
-Sustainability of veto
-Fiscal responsibility issue
-Advisability of veto
-Ehrlichman
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Funding of programs
-OEO
-Signing
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman,
Weinberger
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Headstart
-1968 election
-Community action programs
-Voters' view
-Democrats
-OEO bill
-Sustainability of veto
-Manadatory spending
-Legal services, emergency health, emergency food
-Weinberger
-Spending ceiling
-William V. Roth
Congressional relations
-OEO bill
-Timmons’s forthcoming conversation with Congressional leaders
-Quid pro quo
-Sustaining water bill veto
-Cole's views
-1972 election
-Lyndon B. Johnson-era economy
-Federal deficit and full employment in 1968
-Effect on inflation
-1968 election
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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[Duration: 3m ]
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
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OEO bill
-Timmons's forthcoming conversation with Congressional leaders
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:52 pm.
The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting
-George E. Christian
-Interruption
-The President's departure for Camp David
-Helicopter
-Tricia Nixon Cox
OEO bill
-Ehrlichman
-Signing
Timmons and Bull left at 4:02 pm.
John B. Connally, Clark MacGregor, Christian and Colson entered at 4:03 pm.
Greetings
-Connally’s health
Refreshments
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[Duration: 30m 7s ]
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1972 campaign
-Advertisements
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President’s trips to the Soviet Union and the PRC
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-McGovern
-Campaign tone
-The President’s accomplishments
-Appeal to Democrats, Independents
-National security
-Economy
-Redistribution of wealth
-Social issues
-Meany
-Presidential character
-Barry M. Goldwater's campaign in 1964
-Tennessee Valley Authority [TVA] issue
-Foreign policy
-Foreign policy
-Johnson
-Democratic Party tradition
-Bipartisanship
-Post World War II era
-Harry S. Truman aid program
-George C. Marshall Plan
-McGovern
-National defense and national security
-The President’s viewing
-Compared to other issues such as strip mining and the
Soviet grain deal
-Negative tone
-Timing
-National defense welfare, credibility
-Emphasis on the positive
-Timing
-McGovern
-Hardhats
-Positive, five minute spots
-Cost
-Timing
-“Mini-documentaries”
-Republican National Convention
-Busing
-Michigan
-Foreign policy
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President's trip to the Soviet Union
-Trade agreement
-Kissinger’s visits
-Timing
-Forthcoming foreign policy announcements
-US-Soviet Union trade agreement, October
[18], 1972
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] II,
October [19], 1972
-November [21], 1972
-Moscow, Washington, DC
-The Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe
[CSCE] and Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions
[MBFR]
-Interim SALT agreement, October 1972
-Andrei A. Gromyko's forthcoming visit
-Moscow, Washington, DC signings
-Timing
-Soviet Union announcements
-Trip
-The President's trip to the PRC
-Youth
-“America the Beautiful” tour
-Focus
-Single issues
-Duration
-The President’s trip to the PRC
-Timing
-Soviet Union
-Gromyko
-Negative tone
-National defense
-Timing
-The President's conversation with O. Clark Fisher of
Texas earlier in the day
-The President’s and Fisher’s experience on Labor
Committee
-Domestic and foreign policy and national security
votes
-The President’s experience
-Focus
-Advertisements
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Foreign policy
-William P. Rogers's United Nations [UN] appearance
-Speech to Foreign Affairs Council
-The President's appearances
-International Monetary Fund [IMF] speech,
September 25, 1972
-New York, September 26, 1972
-Statue of Liberty
-Ethnic groups [American Museum of
Immigration dedication]
-Common Cause
-National Career Conference, Los Angeles, September
28, 1972
-National defense
-Soviet Union announcements
-Speech
-Timing
-Timing
-The President's IMF speech
-Rogers at UN
-Melvin R. Laird
-Los Angeles
-Connally's television appearance
-Timing
-Relationship to the President's schedule
-Atlanta
-Connally’s schedule
-St. Louis
-Taping
-Charts
-Meeting with Gromyko
-SALT signing
-Photograph
-Duration
-October 4, 1972
-News value of appearance
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-The President's schedule
-Atlanta
-Forthcoming trip to Texas
-Laredo and [Rio Grande High School]
-Connally’s ranch
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-San Antonio
-Connally's forthcoming television appearance
-Taping
-Leaks
-Target audience
-Democrats, labor
-Bipartisanship
-Connally’s background
-Secretary of Navy
-Truman
-National Defense
-Veteran’s organizations
-McGovern
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, Truman, John F. Kennedy
-Tone
-Text
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Theme
-Henry A. Wallace's position on aid to Greece and Turkey
-1948 campaign
-McGovern
-The President’s experience as congressman
-Aid to Greece and Turkey, Marshall Plan
-Truman
-Helen Gahagan Douglas
-Use of graphics and audiovisual aids
-Wallace film clip's availability
-March of Time archives
-Aid to Greece and Turkey
-Roll call vote
-The President
-The President and Kennedy as freshman members of
Congress
-Theme
-Wallace
-McGovern
-Robert Sam Anson biography
-Assistance from White House staff
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Kissinger
-Buchanan
-Themes
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-McGovern’s 1948 letter about Red Scare
-Meany circulation
-Signing of SALT agreement and Gromyko's visit
Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:03 pm.
Request for Congressional Record
-Aid to Greece and Turkey
-1947 vote
-The President, Kennedy
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:30 pm.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 16m 40s ]
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Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:03 pm.
Request for glasses
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:30 pm.
Polls
-McGovern
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Louis P. Harris polls
-Economy
-Recession
Bull entered and left at an unknown time before 5:30 PM.
Polls
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Harris polls
-Economy
-Approval of the President's handling of the job
-Compared to 1969
-Economy
-Possibility of recession
-1971 compared to 1972
-Price increases
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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[Duration: 6m 34s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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Polls
-Sindlinger polls
-Wage and price controls
-Trend
-Politics
-The President's handling of job
-McGovern
-Cabinet, Congress
-The President’s family
-McGovern
-Sindlinger poll
Foreign policy
-80th Congress vote on aid to Greece and Turkey
-Douglas
-Isolationists
-The President, Kennedy, Johnson
-Ages
-Television
-McGovern
-1947
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President’s votes as congressman
-Food for Europe
-1946 election
-Johnson campaign
-Tone
-Hardy Hollers
-Accusations of stealing
-Dan Moody
-Financial records
-Arlan Graves [?] of Austin
-Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Ladybird”) Johnson
-Lyndon Johnson’s speech at Wooldridge
Park
th
-80 Congress vote on aid to Greece and Turkey
-Debate
-Buchanan's possible analysis
-Participants
-The President and Kennedy
-Joseph W. Martin, Jr., Samuel T. Rayburn,
Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Wallace
-Lyndon Johnson
-Vito Marcantonio
-J. Harry McGregor of Ohio
-Conservatives
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[Duration: 2m 31s ]
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Connally et al. except Haldeman, left at 5:36 pm.
OEO bill
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 5:36 pm.
Request
Haldeman’s schedule
The President's schedule
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
The President left at an unknown time after 5:36 pm.
The President's schedule
-Ehrlichman, Weinberger
-Kissinger
The President entered at an unknown time after 5:37 pm.
The President and Haldeman left at 5:41 pm.