Conversation: 784-013
Prev:  784-012 Next: 784-014Start Date: 21-Sep-1972 11:30 AM
End Date: 21-Sep-1972 11:48 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hébert, F. Edward; Arends, Leslie C.; Bennett, Charles E.; Hall, Durward G.; Laird, Melvin R.; Wilbur, Richard S.; Rousselot, Louis M.; Slatinshek, Frank M.; Timmons, William E.; Nidecker, John E.; Bull, Stephen B.; Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, F. Edward Hébert, Leslie C. Arends, Charles E. Bennett, Durward G. Hall, Melvin R. Laird, Richard S. Wilbur, Louis M. Rousselot, Frank M. Slatinshek, William E. Timmons, John E. Nidecker, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:30 am to 11:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 784-013 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 784-13 Date: September 21, 1972 Time: 11:30 am - 11:48 am Location: Oval Office The President met with F. Edward Hebert, Leslie C. Arends, Charles E. Bennett, Durward G. Hall, Melvin R. Laird, Richard S. Wilbur, Louis M. Rousselot, Frank M. Slatinshek, William E. Timmons, and John E. Nidecker. 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Greetings -Request that Laird make a statement [for House Resolution] [HR] [10670] Laird’s suit Photograph session Senate [Photograph session] Signing ceremony for HR 2 [Uniformed Services Health Provisions Revitalization Act] -Distribution of pens -Vietnam -Casualties -The President’s staff recommendation for veto -Memorandum -The President’s commitment to Hebert -The President's view -Reassurance for more uniformed doctors in medical services Departure for Cabinet Room -Laird HR 2 bill -Timmons view Stephen B. Bull entered and left at an unknown time before 11:48 am. Hebert, et al., except Laird, left at 11:36 am. HR 2 bill -The President’s recent conversation with Hebert -Perceptions of bill -Congressional Relations staff -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] -Bureau of the Budget [Office of Management and Budget] [OMB] The tape stopped and restarted at an unknown time between 11:36 and 11:48 am. 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) The President's program -Medical school The tape stopped and restarted at an unknown time between 11:36 and 11:48 am. -1973, 1974 Ceremony for HR 10670 -The President's opening comments -Laird's comments -Duration -Importance of bill -Bipartisanship -Public interest in bill 1972 election -George S. McGovern's defense plan -Response -Campaign strategy -September 20, 1972 -Debate -Cuts in defense -Carriers, Air Force, Navy, Army, missile force -Press coverage -News summary -London Economist -Abram Chayes -Talks in Europe -Withdrawal of US troops in Europe -Reintroduction by airlift -Timeframe -World Wars II and I -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Air bases -Henry A. Kissinger -Costs -Effect on Allies -Timing of discussion of plan -Laird's forthcoming appearance on Meet the Press The tape stopped and restarted at an unknown time between 11:36 and 11:48 am. 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Brig. General Daniel ("Chappie") James, Jr., Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs -Public appearances -Prisoners of war [POWs] -Centennial Commission -Laird -Today show appearance -Future -1972 election -Promotion to Major General -Laird’s effort -Public appearances -San Francisco -Television -John D. Ehrlichman -Foreign policy -Support of Richard M. Nixon Doctrine -Sense of humor -Singing -Laird’s schedule -Presbyterian Church -Demonstrators Vietnam demonstrations -Casualties -Draft issue -POWs -Bombings -Dikes -Organization -Sizes of groups 1972 election -Laird's possible schedule -Massachusetts -Wisconsin -West Virginia -The President's schedule -Atlanta -Laird's schedule -Pennsylvania, Ohio, Missouri, Texas, California, 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Oklahoma -Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. -Budgetary concerns -Navy -William P. Rogers -Laird’s schedule -Massachusetts -Cambridge -Harvard University -Ethnic areas, hardhats, defense -Quincy shipyards -Naval contracts -Merchant cargo ships -Announcement -Timing -Edith N. Rogers -Veterans Affairs Committee -Jeannette Rankin -Chowder and Marching Club Forthcoming signing of HR 10670 Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:36 am. Departure for Cabinet Room -The President’s schedule Laird and Bull left at 11:48 pm.