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Start Date: 26-Sep-1972 10:54 AM

End Date: 26-Sep-1972 11:17 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Tonelli, Joseph P.Silberman, Laurence H.Usery, Willie J., Jr.Rodgers, Donald F.White House photographer[Unknown person(s)]Hodgson, James D.

Recording Device: Oval Office

787-006.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Joseph P. Tonelli, Laurence H. Silberman, Willie J. Usery, Jr., Donald F. Rodgers, White House photographer, unknown person(s), and James D. Hodgson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:54 am to 11:17 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 787-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 787-6

Date: September 26, 1972
Time: 10:54 am - 11:17 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Joseph P. Tonelli, Lawrence H. Silberman, Willie J. Usery, Jr. and
Donald F. Rodgers, the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.
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Greetings

The President's previous meeting with Joseph P. Tonelli
     -Sheraton Hotel 1960
          -Fund raising dinner

[Photograph session]

     -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

The President’ appreciation for Tonelli’s support
     -Jobs
     -Fair treatment

The President's foreign policy
     -Changes in international relations
          -Peoples Republic of China [PRC]
          -Soviet Union
          -Ending the Vietnam War
               -Withdrawal of troops

The President's domestic policy
     -Stabilized economy
     -Wage and price controls
          -Tonelli’s opposition
          -Necessity
               -Timing
          -World War II
          -Harry S. Truman
               - Korean War

Vance Hartke-James A. Bourke bill
    -Opposition of United Paper Makers International Union [UPMIU]
         -Pulp and paper industry
             -Exports
                  -Value
             -Jobs
     -Pulp and paper industry
         -Paper supply
             -Newfoundland
             -Southern paper mills
                  -International Paper Company
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An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:54 am.

       Refreshments

An unknown person left at an unknown time after before 11:12 am.

                      -Imports from Canada manufacture of pulp paper
                 -Products
                      -Corrugated boxes, envelopes, bags
            -White House conference
                 -Pulp and paper industry employment
                      -Business volume
                      -Compared with steel, automobile
            -Tonelli’s possible testimony
                      -Union mandate
            -Appeal
                 -Business
                 -Labor
            -International trade
            -Soviet Union
            -PRC
            -Japan
            -US trade position
                 -Competitiveness
                          -Unfair treatment
            -Statistics
                 -Pulp and Paper Institute
            -Tax on paper imports
                 -Reciprocity
            -Exports
                 -Europeans
                 -Japan
            -Barriers
                 Effect
            -Jobs issue

       Tonelli's responsibilities
            -Chairman, Pulp and Paper Union of Europe
                  -Geneva, Switzerland
                  -32 companies participating
                  -Standard of living
                      -European workers
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               -Japan
                   -Tonelli's forthcoming trip, November 5, 1972
                       -Foundation of Pulp and Paper Union

UPMIU convention
    -Pulp and paper sulfide
        -Merger
    -Secretary of Labor's [James D. Hodgson’s] speech
        -White House policies
        -Reception
   -Denver
   -Delegates
   -President’s schedule
        -San Clemente
   -Hodgson’s speech
        -Audience size
        -Reception

Tonelli’s support for the administration
     -Labor-management issues
     -National defense

The President's recent meeting with Thomas W. ("Teddy") Gleason

The President's forthcoming meeting with Peter Brennan

National defense policy
     -George Meany
     -Union support

Foreign policy
      -Union support
          -Rank and file
          -Board members
          -Politics
               -Meany's golf game with the President

Labor support
     -1972 election
     -The President's 1972 Labor Day speech
         -National Commission for Industrial Peace

Labor-Management relations
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            -Dispute resolution
                -Alternatives to economic pressure
                -New York
                     -Building trade strike
                -Tonelli’s recent conversation with Hodgson
                -Teachers strike
                     -[American Federation of Teachers]
                     -Congress
                -Postal strike
                     -Usery
                     -Meany
                     -Rights of government workers to organize and bargain
                          -Fair treatment
                -The President's Executive Order [11491]
                     -Broad rights to Federal employees
                          -Organization
                     -Kenneth R. Lyons
                     -John F. Griner
                          -Endorsement of the President
                          -Background
                               -Georgia
                          -Recent convention
                               -Opposition
                                    -Joe Gleason

      Crossing crafts classification
           -Hodgson
           -Welders
           -Electricians
           -Pipe workers
           -More pay
           -Purpose

      National Commission for Industrial peace
           -President’s possible conversation with Tonelli
                -Timing
                    -1972 election
           -Membership

Hodgson entered at 11:12 pm.

      National Commission for Industrial Peace
           -Membership
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                  -Consultation
                      -1972 election

       Crossing crafts

       National Commission for Industrial Peace
            -Membership
                 -Number
                 -Labor, management, government
                 -Hodgson
                     -Consultation with Tonelli
                 -Timing
                     -January 1, 1973

       UPMIU convention
           -Hodgson’s speech
           -Reception
               -News description
                   -Tonnelli making tape
                   -Cheer lines

       Presentation of Presidential gifts
            -Cuff links
                 -Presidential seal
            -Pin
            -Paper

       White House telephone call to Tonelli

Silberman et al. left at an unknown time before 11:17 am.

       Golf

       UPMIU support for President

       Meeting delay

Tonelli left at 11:17 a.m.