Conversation No. 793-10

Date: October 6, 1972
Time: 10:37 am - 11:20 am
Location: Oval Office
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The President met with Pote Sarasin, Anand Panyarachun, and John H. Holdridge; the White
House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

        US-Thailand relations
           -The President's visits to Thailand
           -Sarasin’s career
                -Ambassador to US In 1952
                    -Harry S. Truman
                    -Dwight D. Eisenhower
           -The President’s visits to Thailand
                -As Vice-President and private citizen
                -1969
           -US presence in Thailand
                -Purpose
                    -George S. McGovern’s comments
                         -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                    -Vietnam
                    -Defense commitment
                         -Treaty
                -Importance
                    -The administration’s commitment
                         -Intentions
                              -Congress
                              -1972 election
                              -Vietnam
           -Treaty obligations

        Vietnam
            -Bases
                -US-Thai interests
            -Laos and Cambodia
            -The President’s schedule

            -Status of negotiations
                 -Security of Laos and Cambodia
                 -Consultation with Thailand
                     -Settlement
                 -Prime Minister of Thailand [Thanom Kittikachorn]
                 -North Vietnamese
                     -Incentive for settlement
                          -Possible offer
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                -South Vietnamese
                -Interest in Southeast Asia
                     -POWs
                     -South Vietnam
                          -Survival
                          -Communist government
                     -Cambodia and Laos
                          -North Vietnam
                               -Chances for survival
                -US military activity
                -South Vietnamese, Laos, and Cambodia
                -Settlement
                     -Timing
                          -1972 election
                               -North Vietnamese bargaining position
                          -Status of the North and South Vietnamese

Manolo Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time between 10:37 am and 11:20 am.

            Refreshments

            The President’s October 5, 1972 press conference
                -Comparison to 1968
                    -Cease-fire, bombing halt

            Vietnam
                -Status of negotiations
                     -Effectiveness of mining and bombing

Manolo Sanchez [?] left at an unknown time between 10:37 am and 11:20 am.

                 -Soviet Union and Peoples Republic of China [PRC]
                     -Desire to end the war
                     -US relations
                     -Policy objectives
            -Effect of 1972 election
            -Settlement
                 -Consultation with Thailand
                     -Importance
                 -Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia
                     -Cease-fire
                 -1954 Geneva Accords
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            -Pierre Mendes-France
                 -Laos
                      -PRC
                      -North Vietnam
    -Recent meeting of Asian foreign ministers
        -Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand
        -Message from Indonesian Foreign Minister Adam Malik
            -North Vietnamese representative’s conversation with Malik in Jakarta
                 -Suffering
                 -Settlement
        -Proposals
            -Withdrawal
            -POWs
            -Political settlement
            -Troop withdrawals
                 -Laos
                 -Cambodia
        -PRC-Thailand relations
            -Sarasin’s recent conversation with Ch’iao Kuan in New York
                    -Invitation of Thai table tennis team to PRC
                      -Chou En-lai
                    -Soviet Union
                    -Taiwan, Republic of China
                      -US forces
                    -Cambodia
                         -Norodom Sihanouk
                           -Statement
                    -Thailand
                         -Presence of US forces
                           -Northeastern Thailand
                    -Chinese in Thailand
                      -Assimilation
                           -Schools
                    -Diplomatic relations
                    -Respect

Taiwan
    -Thanom
    -Japan
    -US defense commitment
    -US diplomatic relations
    -PRC
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        -Normalization of relations
    -US diplomatic objective
        -Modus Vivendi
            -PRC

US-PRC relations
   -PRC interests
      -The President’s trip to PRC
               -Taiwan
               -Vietnam
               -Taiwan
                 -US forces
                 -Principle
                      -Timing
      -US
      -South Vietnam, Taiwan
      -Soviet Union
            -Divisions
            -Developments since 1959
      -India
            -Relations with Soviet Union
                 -Pakistan
      -Japan
            -Economic and political contact
                 -Taiwan
                 -India
            -Military conflicts
                 -Japanese constitution
                 -Economic power
                 -Soviet Union
      -US
            -Differences in philosophies
            -Korean War
                 -PRC view of US policy
                      -Conquest and domination
            -Japan
            -South Korea
            -Soviet Union

US-Soviet Union relations
   -Agreements on environment, trade, science, space, arms
   -Soviet motivations
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        -Possible future
            -US, PRC, Japan
    -PRC
    -Arms race
    -Middle East
    -Europe
        -Berlin agreement

US international relations
    -Negotiations with PRC
         -Chou En-lai
         -Mao Tse-tung
    -Leonid I. Brezhnev
         -Europe
    -Interests
    -Soviet Union
         -Romania and Poland
         -PRC-US relations
    -Thailand
         -Leadership
                 -South Koreans
                 -Malaysia
                 -Singapore
                     -Lee Kuan Yew
                 -Cambodia
                 -Laos
              -US-PRC policy
              -US-Soviet Union policy
         -US-PRC policy
              -US influence
                  -Korea
                  -Vietnam
                       -US conventional forces
                           -Navy, Air Force
         -Possible PRC objectives
              -Taiwan, Japan, South Korea
                  -Influence and survival
         -US-PRC relations
              -Soviet Union
              -PRC expansion
                  -Overseas Chinese communities
                  -Indonesia
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        -Timing
        -Influence
             -PRC expansion
-US withdrawal from Southeast Asia
-McGovern Proposal
    -Bases in Pacific Ocean
        -Japan
             -US-Treaty commitment
             -Possible actions
                 -World War II
                 -Soviet Union
                 -Rearmament
-Free Asia
    -Compared to Communist Asia
    -Japan
    -South Korea
    -Taiwan
    -Philippines
    -Indonesia
        -Chinese
    -Thailand
    -Southeast Asians
    -Burma
    -Importance of survival
        -Soviets
        -PRC
-US forces in Europe
    -Unilateral withdrawal
    -Warsaw Pact
-US presence in Asia
    -PRC
        -Chou En-Lai
        -Mao Tse-Tung
        -Long March
        -Communism
        -Expansion
        -Importance
    -Soviet Union
        -Divisions
        -Fort McNair
        -PRC statements
             -Japan, Thailand
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                 -Nixon Doctrine
                     -Justification and philosophy
                 -PRC view
                     -US forces in Europe
                     -US forces in Taiwan
                          -Shanghai Communique

        Presentation of gifts
            -Cufflinks
                 -Presidential seal

Panyarachun and Holdridge left at 11:14 am.

        Post-1972 election changes
            -US ambassadors to Thailand
                -Conduit
                     Bureaucracy
                -Adm. Horacio Rivero, Jr.
                     -Spain
                -Adm. John S. McCain, Jr.
                     -Commander, Pacific Fleet
                     -Knowledge of the area and the military situation
                     -Sarasin’s view
                     -Social manner
                     -Relationship with the President
                     -Sarasin’s view
                         -Kittikachorn
                     -Communication channel
                         -[Panyarachun]
                              -Henry A. Kissinger

        1972 election
            -Wish for the President’s success from Kittikachorn and Sarasin
                -Trips to Thailand
                     -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                     -John B. Connally
                     -Idanell (Brill) (“Nellie”) Connally

        Presentation of gift

        King Bhumibol Adulyadej
            -Greetings from the President
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             -Possible visit to the US
                 -1972 election
                 -Vietnam

         Thailand
             -US troops
                  -Number
                      -Compared to South Korea
                  -Behavior
                      -The President’s trip to Thailand

         Oval Office décor
            -Differences from Sarasin’s last visit
                 -Thomas E. Stephens
            -Curtains
                 -Television

Sarasin left at 11:20 am.