Conversation No. 793-12

Date: October 6, 1972
Time: 11:34 am - 12:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Patrick Hillery, Sean O'Heideian, Col. Richard Kennedy, Marion H.
Smoak, John D. Moore and Ronald L. Ziegler; the White House photographer and members of
the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.


        Introductions and greetings
             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s trip to New York to American Irish Historical Society
             dinner
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        -Medal
        -Reception
        -The President’s schedule
    -Photograph session
        -Arrangements

[Photograph session]
    -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy

US-Ireland relations
    -Irish Airlines
         -The President’s next trip to Ireland
              -Shannon
              -Trans World Airlines [TWA]
    -The President’s meetings with Eamon de Valcra, 1970
         -Presidency in Ireland
         -Compared to US
    -Dublin landing rights and negotiations
            -Recent avoidance of confrontation
            -Hugh J. McCann
              -Chicago
              -1972 election
            -Need for understanding to be reached
            -Flag carriers
            -The President's personal attention
                 -Request for a report
                 -Search
            -Irish concession to the US
                 -Dublin
                 -Unknown person
            -Development of western part of Ireland
                 -Shannon
                 -Dublin
                 -Shannon Airport
                   -Location
                       -President’s letter to John M. (“Jack”) Lynch
            -Shannon
                 -Transatlantic passengers deplaning
                   -Percentage
                       -Reasons
                            -Beauty of the Irish countryside
                                 -Compared to Dublin
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                                      -Paris
                                  -Connemara
            -Cost to US
                -Civil Aeronautics Board [CAB]
                -Chicago
                  -Boston
                  -New York
                -Montreal
            -Access to Dublin
            -Shannon
                -Compared to Brasilia
                  -The President’s 1967 trip to Brasilia
                  -Growth
            -Relations between Britain and Ireland
                -Edward R.G. Heath
                -Irish population
                  -Changes
                       -Potato famine
                       -Emigration to US
            -Shannon
    -Hillery’s career
         -European Economic Community [EEC]
             -Brussels
             -Britain
    -Irish people
         -Education facilities
         -Work ethic
         -Industry

Lynch's schedule
   -Election
         -Timing
             -EEC
   -Washington
         -Timing of upcoming visit
             -Lynch’s mandate

Northern Ireland
    -Interest in the US
    -Comparison to Poland
    -Conflict with the British
    -US involvement
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    -Extremism
    -Lynch
              -Opposition
                   -Liam Cosgrave
              -Travels in Ireland
    -St. Patrick’s Day
    -American Irish Historical Society
    -The President's study of Irish history
         -Civil War in Spain in the 1930s
              -Gen. Francisco Franco
              -Japan and Germany
                   -US relations with former enemies
                        -World War II
         -British governments
              -William E. Gladstone
              -Benjamin Disraeli
              -The Irish question
         -Randolph Churchill
              -Life in Ireland
              -Jennie (Jerome) Churchill
                   -Jennie
    -British tourists
    -Soviet Union
         -Jews
              -Exit visas
              -Lithuanians
              -Ukrainians
    -British Actions
         -Pace
         -US involvement
              -US blacks
              -Burundi
    -Hillery’s public comments
    -William S.I. Whitlaw
    -US position

Presentation of gifts
    -Cuff links
         -Presidential seal

Mrs. Nixon
    -Medal from American Irish Historical Society
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Lifestyles of government leaders
    -Soviet Union
         -The President’s conversations with Leonid I. Brezhnev, Alexei N. Kosygin,
         Nikolai V. Podgorny
         -Vietnam
         -Dinner
         -Vacations
              -Black Sea
    -Peoples Republic of China [PRC]
         -Chou En-lai
         -Congressional schedule
         -The President's travels and recreation
              -California, Florida, Camp David
              -Reading
                  -Disraeli biography
                  -Detective stories
                  -History, biography
                  -Disraeli
                       -Compared to Gladstone
                       -Work and travel habits
    -Need for vacations
    -Arnold Toynbee’s analysis of religious and political leaders
         -Retreat and return
              -Moses
              -Suddhartha Budda
    -Winston S. Churchill
    -Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
    -Konrad Adenauer
    -US society
    -Leave taking
    -The President's schedule
         -Reading
         -Speech writing
              -Camp David
              -Speech writers
                  -Responsibility

Moore
   -Mulcahy
   -Spanish speaking ability
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        The President’s well wishes

Everyone except Moore left and Stephen B. Bull entered at 12:11 pm.

        The President's Schedule
            -Richard A. Moore

Richard Moore entered at 12:11 pm.

        Mrs. Nixon
            -Medal from American Irish Historical society

        Leadership
            -Assessed by the President
                -Toynbee

        Report of recent meeting with Hillery
           -Randolph Churchill
           -Disraeli-Gladstone debates
                -Robert Peel
           -Shannon Airport
           -Ireland
                -Concern
                     -Post-1972 election

        The President’s October 5, 1972 press conference
            -Style
            -Radio coverage
            -Television

John and Richard Moore left at 12:15 pm.