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Start Date: 9-Oct-1972 3:35 PM

End Date: 9-Oct-1972 4:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Woods, Rose MaryHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

794-014.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:35 pm to 4:34 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 794-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 794-14

Date: October 9, 1972
Time: 3:35 pm - 4:34 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

        Gift from Mitzi (Epstein) Newhouse
             -Vogue
                 -Samuel I. Newhouse
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                   -Thank you letter
                       -Importance
                   -Schedule


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 6m 20s     ]


H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 3:39 pm.

Woods left at 3:39 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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        Poll
               -The President’s general approval and disapproval rating
               -Vietnam
               -Economy
               -Corruption in Federal Government
                   -Examples
                        -Effect on the 1972 election
                   -Handling
                        -George S. McGovern compared to the President
               -The President's visibility
                   -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] signing
                   -Television
               -Corruption


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                                    Tape Subject Log
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 7m 1s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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       Poll
           -US-Soviet Union trade agreement
                -Soviet Jews
                     -Exit tax
                          -Awareness
                -Government subsidies of the shipping industry
                -Credit
                     -Soviet Union
       -Most Favored Nation [MFN] status
                     -Soviet Union
                     -Lend-lease
                     -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Peter G. Peterson
                     -Japan
       -The administration’s foreign policy progress
           -Intellectuals
           -Compared to the People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiative

       Kissinger
           -Schedule
               -Timing of meetings
               -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                   -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
               -Hanoi
                   -The need for Kissinger to report to the President
                        -Hanoi
                        -Paris
                        -Saigon
                   -Settlement timing
                   -Saigon
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                     -North Vietnamese
                          -Peking
                          -Moscow
                     -Possible message to Kissinger
                          -The president’s possible conversation with Kissinger
                 -Progress report
                     -Kennedy

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:39 pm and 4:34 pm.

[Conversation No. 794-14A]

        Request for Kennedy

[End of telephone conversation]

        Vietnam negotiations progress report


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 48s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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        Kissinger
            -Possible trip to Hanoi
                -Paris
                -Saigon
                -North Vietnamese
                     -Peking, Moscow
                -Arrival back to White House
                     -Haig
            -Vietnam
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                             Tape Subject Log
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        -Possible cease-fire
            -Compared to Suez cease-fire
            -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                 -Bombing, mining
        -Military, political settlement

Stewart J.O. Alsop article
    -Newsweek
    -Vietnam War
         -Nguyen Van Thieu
             -Settlement
                  -South Vietnamese
                      -Senate
                           -Haig
             -PRC
             -Level of US support
                  -McGovern
                  -Soviet Union and PRC aid to North Vietnam
         -Level of military advisors
             -John F. Kennedy
         -Bombing, mining
         -Negotiations
             -Thieu
         -POWs
             -Vietnamization
             -McGovern
             -Bombing
         -Thieu’s future

William P. Rogers’s possible press conference
    -Haldeman’s conversation with Rogers
    -Negotiations
    -Kissinger
    -Three possible scenarios
        -Cancellation of press conference
        -Repeating the President’s stance
        -No chance to quit war
    -McGovern
        -Speech
            -PRC
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                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Asia
           -Cancellation
               -Charles W. Colson
               -Kissinger
                   -Paris
                   -Colson

       McGovern
          -Possible press conference
              -Kissinger’s negotiations
          -Partisanship compared to statesmanship
          -Rogers’s possible press conference
              -Negotiations
                   -Sensitivity

       Foreign steel imports
           -John N. Mitchell’s previous conversation with Haldeman
           -The President’s schedule
           -Ralph Guy, Jr.
                -US Steel
           -I[lorwith] W[ilbur] Abel
                -US Steelworkers
                -Administration influence on issue
                -Mitchell’s view
                     -Foreign problems
                -Post-1972 election
           -Steel companies


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 10m 25s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:39 pm.

        The President's schedule
            -Photograph session for candidates
                -Lighting

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:34 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 53s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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The President and Haldeman left at 4:34 pm.