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Start Date: 10-Oct-1972 10:25 AM

End Date: 10-Oct-1972 11:53 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Colson, Charles W.Bull, Stephen B.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

795-001a.mp3

795-001b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:25 am to 11:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 795-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 795-1

Date: October 10, 1972
Time: 10:25 am - 11:53 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

        1972 campaign
            -October 10, 1972 breakfast meeting
                -Memorandum
                -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Clark N. MacGregor
                -Tone
                     -Ehrlichman’s comments
                     -New Jersey
                          -Drugs
                     -State by state analysis
                     -William E. Brock, III
                     -Objective analysis
                     -Crime
                -Gerald R. Ford
                     -Tricia Nixon Cox
                          -Activities
                -Community action programs
                -Tone
                     -Haldeman’s notes
                -Ehrlichman
            -Polls
                -University of Michigan
                -Robert Teeter
                -Issues
                     -South
                          -Taxes
                     -Connecticut
                          -Abortion
                     -Catholic vote
                     -Rhode Island, Michigan, New York
                     -Catholics
                          -Environment
                          -Ehrlichman and Domestic Council
                                           2
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                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Abortion, patriotism, environment, lifestyle, amnesty, busing
                        -Connecticut
                        -New Jersey
                             -[Gateway National Recreation Area]
              -Pollsters
                   -Old Republican constituency
                        -White, Protestant, upper-middle income
                             -Donald H. Rumsfeld, Robert H. Finch
                   -Poles, Irish voters in Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Chicago,
                     Michigan, South, Midwest
              -Samuel Lubell
              -Patriotism
                   -News summary
              -Hugh S. Sidey
                   -Louis P. Harris
                   -George S. McGovern
                   -Economic issue
                        -News summary
                             -William L. Safire
                             -Quote
                                  -Herbert L. Klein
                                  -McGovern
                                  -Source
                                      -Patrick J. Buchanan
                                           -Reference to the President
              -MacGregor
              -Ehrlichman
              -Teeter polls
                   -Analysis of the issues
                        -Hard hats abortion, amnesty, US military, busing
                        -Edwin L. Harper
              -Bruce Morton
                   -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
              -McGovern
                   -Advice
                   -Media treatment


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

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        Press relations
            -Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent trip to New York
                 -Advance men
                      -Role
                          -McGovern press
            -Ronald L. Ziegler, Klein
                 -Betty (Koplow) Kaplow
                      -Telephone call from the President
                 -Herbert E. Kaplow
                      -Letter from the President
            -Philosophical groups
                 -The President’s view
                      -Leftists
                      -Rightists
                          -John Birch Society members
                      -Kaplow, Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
                          -Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent trip to New York
                      -Arthur O. Sulzberger
                          -Klein
                      -Katharine C. Graham

        Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent trip to New York
            -Advance men
                 -Role
                     -Crowd
                          -Parade
                     -Press
            -Press and media relations
                 -Herbert Kaplow
                 -McGovern
                     -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
            -Kathleen Beery [sp?]
            -Demonstrators
                 -Compared to Chicago
                                                 4
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Media coverage
                    -Slogan
                    -Gesture

Ziegler entered at 10:43 am.

        Recent breakfast meeting
            -Congressional leaders
            -Spending ceiling vote
            -Busing
                -Cloture
                -Ford
            -Domestic issues
            -MacGregor
            -Ehrlichman
            -Defense
            -Busing
                -Michigan
            -Defense
                -California
            -Candidates
            -Voter turnout effort
                -MacGregor
                     -Attribution of statement
            -Focus on issues

        Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
           -Impending arrival
           -Vietnam negotiations
                -William P. Rogers
                -Melvin R. Laird
                -New York Times story
                    -Rogers
                    -Laird
                    -Paris
                    -Saigon
                    -Source
                        -National Security Council [NSC]
                              -State Department
                              -Kissinger’s staff
                                   -Col. Richard T. Kennedy
                              -Hanoi
                                     5
             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)


Press relations
    -Klein
    -Herbert Kaplow
         -Mother-in-law's death
              -Telephone call to Betty Kaplow
         -Job loss
              -Letter to Herbert Kaplow
         -Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent trip to New York
              -McGovern press
    -Left wingers
         -Conservatives
              -Standards
         -Instruction to Ziegler
         -Klein
         -Frank van der Linden
         -Compared to Communists
    -Kaplow
         Presidential communications
    -Safire
         -Actions
    -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
         -James ("Scotty") Reston
    -Ideological divisions
         -Six Crises
         -Klein
              -1960 campaign
                   -John F. Kennedy's campaign
                   -Treatment of Klein
         -Peter Lisagor
              -Wife
         -Nicholas P. Thimmesch
         -Frank Cormier
         -Hugh S. Sidey
              -Possible misunderstanding
         -President’s previous comment to Kissinger
              -Communists
Watergate and campaign practices
    -Washington Post
         -Federal Bureau Investigation [FBI]
    -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
         -MacGregor
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

             -Response to press
                 -L.[ouis] Patrick Gray
                 -Sidey
             -Demonstrations
                 -Los Angeles
                 -Boston
             -Kenneth W. Clawson
             -William Loeb
                 -Edmund Muskie
             -Corruption charges
                 -Cabinet officials

Ziegler left at 11:00 am.

             -FBI
                 -Colson's office
                      -Donald Segretti
             -Clawson
                 -"Canuck" letter
                 -Marilyn Berger
         Vietnam negotiations
             -Kissinger’s meetings
                 -Status
                      -Military and political issues
                          -North Vietnam interest in settlement
                                -Government of Vietnam [GVN]
                          -Kissinger’s position
                                -Security and military guarantees
                      -Progress
                          -Public statements
                      -Kissinger’s schedule
                      -Complexity and sensitivity
                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming repost to the President
                      -Public statements
                          -McGovern
                          -Rogers
                                -Cancelled press conference
                          -Laird
                      -Military issues
                      -Political issues
                          -Nguyen Van Thieu
                          -Nine points
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

            -Response to political change

        1972 campaign issues
            -Tone
                -White House staff
            -Farm issue, grain issue


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[Duration: 6m 58s ]


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Colson entered at 11:14 am.

        Recent breakfast
            -Format
                -Crime issue
                -Drugs
            -Tone
                -MacGregor
                -Ehrlichman’s comments
                     -Crime, prices, Vietnam
                     -State by state analysis
                          -Northeast, South
                              -Social issues, welfare
            -Teeter
                -Domestic Council
            -Harper
            -Connecticut
                -Issues
                     -Abortion
                     -Amnesty
                -Buchanan
                     -Colson’s note
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                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Thomas J. Meskill
        -Aid to parochial schools
        -Harper
            -Rumsfeld
            -Finch
            -Old Republican constituency
        -Kevin P. Philips
        -Sources of strength
            -Catholics, Italians, ethnics
            -South, Mountain states, Plains states
            -Issue appeal
                 -Patriotism, morality and religious faith
                 -South, white ethnic “urban ring”
                 -Mountains
            -Harper
                 -Analysis discussed
                      -Sociological compared to political bent

Watergate and campaign practices
   -Leaks
   -Washington Post
   -Colson’s office
        -Clawson
            -Berger
                  -"Canuck" letter
        -Letter writing
        -Segretti
            -CRP
            -FBI interview of Colson
        -Advance men
        -Colson's activities

Watergate
   -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
   -Funds

McGovern campaign
   -Demonstrators in Los Angeles
        -Network coverage
   -Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent rip to New York
        -Media coverage
            -Absence
                                         9
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                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Nov-03)


Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins photographs
    -Circulation

McGovern campaign
   -Tricia Nixon Cox’s recent rip to New York
        -Compared to Chicago
   -Columbus Day Parade
        -International Ladies Garment Workers Union [ILGWU]
             -Invitation to McGovern
                  -Jews
                       -Reaction by Italians

1972 campaign
    -Future meetings with surrogates
    -Recent breakfast meeting
        -H. Allen Smith
    -Richard G. Kleindienst's forthcoming law and order speech
        -Detroit
        -William H. Rehnquist, Jr.

Vietnam negotiations
    -McGovern
        -Forthcoming speech
        -Laird
            -Colson’s previous conversation with Laird
            -Kissinger’s schedule
                 -Paris
            -Bombing halt
            -Prisoners of war [POWs]
        -Forthcoming speech
            -Fact sheet
            -Radio comments
        -Laird
            -POWs
                 -R. Sargent Shriver’s claim
            -Bombing and mining
                 -Effect
                      -US troop withdrawal
                      -Prevention of communism in South Vietnam
                      -POWs
            -POW issue
                                                10
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                 -Connally
                 -Elliot L. Richardson
                 -Kissinger
                      -Paris
                           -Progress in negotiations
             -Comparision to Korean War negotiations
                 -Harry S. Truman
                      -Panmunjom
                      -US casualties
                 -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                      -1952 election
             -POWs
             -Kissinger
             -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                 -1972 elections
             -National interests

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:14 am.

        The President's schedule
            -Polish Ambassador [Witold Trampczynski]

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:53 am.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 2m 12s ]
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                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Nov-03)



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       POW issue
          -McGovern
              -News summary
                  -United Press International [UPI]
              -Markham L. Gartley and mother
              -David Dellinger
              -Cora Weiss
              -Edward Elias and Norris A. Charles
          -Barry M. Goldwater
              -Weiss
              -Dellinger
              -W. Ramsey Clark
                  -John G. Tower


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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[Duration: 4m 57s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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       Demonstrators at Columbus Day Parade
          -Network coverage
          -Italian-Americans
          -Doral Hotel comparison
               -Democratic National Convention
          -Tone
               -Vietcong [VC] flags
               -Slogans
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                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Nov-03)

    -Press, wire coverage
         -New York Times headline
    -Italian-Americans
         -Jews
              -Louis Stulberg

Issues
    -Connecticut
    -New Jersey
        -Abortion
        -Aid to parochial schools
    -Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania
    -Recent breakfast meeting
        -Ehrlichman’s previous comment in Cabinet Room
            -Environment
                 -Rhode Island
        -Abortion bill in Connecticut legislature
        -Abortion issue
            -Ford
                 -Michigan
            -Ehrlichman
            -Harper
            -Polls
            -Blacks
    -Permissiveness and morality
        -Rhode Island
            -Percentage of Catholics
            -Hubert H. Humphrey
            -Herbert F. DeSimone
                 -Factories
                      -Social issues
    -Recent breakfast meeting
        -Ehrlichman’s comments
            -Marijuana
                 -Drugs
    -Amnesty
        -Importance of issue
        -John N. Mitchell
            -Young people
        -Catholics
        -War service
            -Draft dodgers
                                13
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                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Nov-03)

             -Vietnam, Korea, World War II
        -Jack Dempsey
             -Louis [Georges] Carpentier
                 -Public view
        -The President as a Quaker
        -College deferments
             -Harvard University, Yale University, University of California,
              University of California at Los Angeles [UCLA], Whittier College
   -John Todd
        -Veteran on television
             -Support for the President
                 -Metromedia, Canada
-Domestic Council's role
   -Pollsters’ understanding
        -Teeter
        -Richard M. Scammon
             -Environment
        -Harris
             -Jewish background
                 -Catholics
             -Stance on issues
                 -Amnesty, marijuana, Vietnam
        -George H. Gallup
             -Vietnam
        -Albert E. Sindlinger
             Economy
        -Lubell
             -Scammon
        -Haynes B. Johnson
             -Washington Post series
   -Catholics
        -Washington Post series
        -Issues
             -Perception of the President
                 -Democrats compared to Republicans
                 -Morality
                 -Empathy
                      -Work ethic
   -Recent breakfast meeting
        -Work ethic
             -Mountain states
        -Welfare
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                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Nov-03)

                          -Ehrlichman, Richardson

An unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:53 am.

        Congressional vote
           -Busing cloture
                -McGovern
                -Hugh Scott

        The President’s schedule
            -Telegram

Haldeman and Colson left at 11:53 am.