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Start Date: 10-Oct-1972 1:37 PM

End Date: 10-Oct-1972 2:30 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, ManoloButterfield, Alexander P.Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

795-017.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Alexander P. Butterfield, Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:37 pm to 2:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 795-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 795-17

Date: October 10, 1972
Time: 1:37 pm - 2:30 pm
Location: Oval Office
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.


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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 1:37 pm.

        Item for Rose Mary Woods

Sanchez left at 1:40 pm.

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 1:40 pm.

        The President's schedule
            -Blacks
            -Hispanics
            -Italian-Americans
            -Ethnic leaders
                 -Marriott Key Bridge motel
                      -The President’s upcoming visit to Atlanta
                           -Timing
                           -Radio talk
                 -Family, staff schedule
                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                      -Herbert G. Klein
                      -Edward C. Nixon
                           -Donald McI. Kendall
                      -Tricia Nixon Cox
                           -LaCrosse, Wisconsin
                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                           -Barcelona, Spain
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                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Nov-03)

              -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
              -Marriott
           -Meetings
              -Blacks
              -Jews
              -Washington, DC government
                   -Washington Post, Washington Star
                   -Walter E. Washington
                   -Public interest
                       -Crime


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       US-Poland Science and Technology agreement
          -Signing ceremony
          -The President’s recent meeting [with Witold Trampczynski]
              -Film presentation
          -Casimir Pulaski Day
          -Polish government
              -Communists
                   -Polish-Americans
          -Government
          -William P. Rogers
          -White House
              -Possible ceremony
                   -State Department
              -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
          -US-Soviet Union [trade] agreement

       The President's schedule
           -Senators
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         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Nov-03)

     -Debt control
          -Public statements
          -Breakfast meeting, October 10, 1972
          -Radio address on Federal spending, October 7, 1972
          -Camp David
          -House of Representatives
               -William E. Timmons view on passage
          -Debt ceiling
               -Public understanding
               -The President’s recent radio speech
                    -Spending ceiling
-Nature of events
-James S. Copley
-Publications
     -Samuel Newhouse
     -William Randolph Hearst
     -Roy Howard, Thomas Vail
-Post-1972 election plans
     -Post-inaugural plans
     -British
     -French
     -Henry A. Kissinger previous conversation with Haldeman
          -Chung Hee Park
     -The President’s recent meeting with Quadriand
          -December 15, 1972
     -Budget
     -Inaugural address
-State of the Union address
-Kissinger
-Inaugural address
     -State of the Union address
          -New Congress
          -Speech writer
          -Progress
          -Parties for contributors
-Possible Senate leaders meeting
     -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
     -Busing legislation
          -Recent breakfast meeting
               -Gerald R. Ford
          -Cloture vote
          -James L. Buckley, Robert P. Griffin, Howard H. Baker, Jr., William E.
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Nov-03)

                      Brock III, Harry F. Byrd, Jr., John G. Tower
                          -Request
                      -John Ehrlichman, Timmons, Charles W. Colson
                          -Recommendations
                      -Cloture vote
                          -Cole
             -Camp David
             -Publishers and editors
                 -Reception

        Letters
            -Congressmen and Senators

        Possible Senate leaders meeting
            -Tower
            -Recent breakfast meeting
            -Letter on busing
                 -Ehrlichman
            -Timmons
            -Tower
                 -Texas
                 -Clark MacGregor
            -Baker, Brock, Byrd, Griffin, Buckley, Tower
                 -Busing legislation
                     -The President’s support
            -Busing issue
                 -Presidential meetings
                     -March 1972

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:40 pm.

        Request for Ronald L. Zeigler

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:00 pm.

        Meeting with Senators
           -Public statements on busing
                -Speeches, press conferences
           -Tower

Zeigler entered at 2:00 pm.
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

         Busing
             -Zeigler’s recent press conferences

Butterfield left at 2:02 pm.

                  -Defense
                  -Ford
                        -Recent breakfast meeting
                  -Cloture vote
              -[Cole’s] memorandum for the President
              -Moratorium
              -Equal opportunities legislation
              -Cloture vote
              -Ziegler's coordination with Cole
                  -Meeting with the Senators
              -Cole’s memorandum
              -Cloture vote
                  -Result

         The President's schedule
             -Possible Senate leaders meeting
                 -Ehrlichman, Edwin L. Morgan
                 -Photograph session
                      -Cole
                 -Reception
                 -Ehrlichman and Morgan
                      -Differing views

         Melvin R. Laird press conference
            -Daniel Z. Hinken’s previous telephone conversation with Ziegler
            -Kissinger’s schedule
            -Vietnam negotiations
                 -George S. McGovern television appearance, October 10, 1972
                 -Administration response to proposal
                     -Instructions for Laird
                          -Bombing, mining, prisoners of war [POWs], surrender

Ziegler left at 2:08 pm.

         The President's schedule
             -Senate leaders meeting
                 -Duration
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                    -Reception
                -Baker
             -Camp David
             -Washington
                -Washington, DC
                    -Public interest
                    -Narcotics

        Speeches
            -Radio Address on Crime and Drug Abuse, October 15, 1972
                -William L. Safire’s draft [on philosophy of government]
                -Radio Address on the American Veteran, October 22, 1972
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s draft
                -American spirit
                    -Safire’s draft
                    -Paternalism compared to freedom
                    -Work ethic
                -Compared to issues of taxes, crime, farming, veterans
                    -Philosophical theme
                -Foreign policy
                    -Kissinger
                -Vision of America
                -Press


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Ziegler entered at 2:19 pm.

        Senate
            -Cloture vote
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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Ziegler left at 2:20 pm.

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[Duration: 8m 19s ]


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         The President's schedule
             -Letters
             -Crime speech
                 -Camp David
             -Camp David


The President and Haldeman left at 2:30 pm.