Conversation: 797-014
Prev: 797-013 Next: 797-015Start Date: 13-Oct-1972 12:22 PM
End Date: 13-Oct-1972 12:40 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ruth, Claire (Hodgson); Thompson, Bobby; Branca, Ralph; Cashen, Henry C., II; White House photographer; O'Donnell, Harry; O'Donnell, Harry (Mrs.); Butrico, Tony;Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Claire (Hodgson) Ruth, Bobby Thompson, Ralph Branca, Henry C. Cashen, II, White House photographer, Harry O'Donnell, Mrs. Patrick E. O'Donnell, and Tony Butrico met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:22 pm to 12:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 797-14
Date: October 13, 1972
Time: 12:22 pm - 12:40 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Claire (Hodgson) Ruth, Bobby Thomson, Ralph Branca, and Henry C.
Cashen, II. The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
-1954
Thomson’s pennant-winning home run in 1951 New York Giants-Brooklyn Dodgers
National League playoff game
-The President’s reminiscence
[Photograph session]
-Baseball
-Giants-Dodgers rivalry
-Johnny Mize
-Ty Cobb
-George H. (“Babe”) Ruth
-The President's reminiscences
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Autographs
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Baseball
-The President’s television [TV] viewing
-The President’s letter from baseball fans
-Football
-TV
-Los Angeles Dodgers
-San Francisco Giants
-Washington Senators
-Texas
-Herb Taney [sp?]
Mr. and Mrs. Harry O'Donnell and Tony Butrico entered at 12:24 pm.
Greetings
-Harry O'Donnell
[Photograph session]
Baseball
-Walter Johnson
-Sports figures
-Off the field characteristics
-Drugs
-Patriotism
-The President’s view
-Sports as a metaphor for life
-John Roosevelt (“Jackie”) Robinson
-1947
-Joseph McCarthy
-Mickey Lolich and Carl M. Yastrzemski
-Previous visit with the President
-Vision
-Thomson’s home run
-Strike count
The President's athletic experience
Gift presentation
-Cuff links
-Presidential seal
-Pin
-Presidential seal
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Golf balls
-Presidential seal
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
Places of residence of Thompson, Branca, and Claire Ruth
-New York
-White Plains
-Plainfield
-Manhattan
Baseball
-Home run record
-Claire Ruth’s age
-Death
-“Babe” Ruth
-Henry L. (“Hank”) Aaron
-Age
-At bats
-“Babe” Ruth
-As a pitcher
-Boston Red Sox
-Win-loss record
-1933
-Pat Summerall
-Branca
-Robert W. A. (“Bob”) Feller
-Christy Mathewson
-Babe Ruth
-Aaron
-1932 World Series
-Charlie Root
-Chicago Cubs
-Los Angeles Angels
-Ruth’s “called shot” home run
-Veracity of story
-Norman Vincent Peale
-1927 New York Yankees
-Babe Ruth
-Earle Combs
-Lou Gehrig
-Bob Meusel
-Tony Lazzeri
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-“Murderers Row”
Claire Ruth
-Expression of support
-Mrs. Nixon
-TV appearance
Thompson and Branca
-Size
-Baseball players
-Football players
-Larry Brown
-Washington Redskins
-Compared to past football players
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[Duration: 1m 14s ]
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Claire Ruth et al. left at 12:40 pm.