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Start Date: 17-Oct-1972 9:59 AM

End Date: 17-Oct-1972 10:21 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Hoopes, David C.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

801-005.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, David C. Hoopes, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:59 am to 10:21 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 801-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 801-5

Date: October 17, 1972
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

Time: 9:59 am - 10:21 am
Location: Oval Office


The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

         John B. Connally’s forthcoming broadcast
             -Herbert G. Klein
                 -Newspaper editors

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 9:59 am.

         The President's schedule
             -Meeting with foreign labor officials
                 -Press coverage

Ziegler left at 10:00 am.

         The President's schedule
             -Political meeting

         The President’s remarks to the National League of Families of American Prisoners and
         Missing in Southeast Asia
             -The President’s criticism of opinion leaders

         Watergate issue
            -Charles W. Colson
            -Patrick J. Buchanan
            -Corruption issue
            -Press coverage
                 -Networks
            -Donald H. Segretti's affidavit
            -Lawsuit
            -White House position
            -Segretti’s affidavit

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:00 am.

         The President's schedule
             -Meeting with foreign labor leaders
                 -Press
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:08 am.

        The President's schedule
            -Meeting with foreign labor leaders
                -George Meany
                     -Press coverage

        Watergate
           -The President's view
           -Democratic campaign practices
                -Robert J. Dole
                -Clark MacGregor
                -Connally
                    -Forthcoming press conference


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 1s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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        Vietnam negotiations
            -Henry A. Kissinger’s schedule
                -Trip to Saigon
                -Possible trip to Hanoi
                -Trip to Paris
            -Kissinger’s insecurity
                -Adolph Hitler
                -Napoleon [Bonaparte] I
                -Winston S. Churchill
                    -Movie [Young Winston]
                -Gen. Charles A.J.M. DeGaulle

David C. Hoopes entered and left between 10:08 am and 10:09 am.

                 -Gen. Douglas MacArthur
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

             -Kissinger’s message to Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Status of negotiations
                      -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to Saigon
                          -Announcement
                               -Haig

Haldeman talked with Haig at an unknown time between 10:09 am and 10:21 am.

[Conversation No. 801-5a]

        Announcement of Kissinger’s trip to Saigon
           -The President’s forthcoming meeting with Haig
               -The President’s forthcoming meeting with foreign labor leaders

The President conferred with Haldeman.

             -Emphasis on consultation
                 -Nguyen Van Thieu
             -De-emphasis on progress of negotiations
             -William P. Rogers
             -The President’s schedule
                 -Foreign labor leaders

[End of conferral]

[End of telephone conversation]

        Vietnam negotiations
            -Kissinger’s possible trip to Hanoi
                -Haldeman’s previous meeting with Kissinger
                -The President’s note to Kissinger
                    -Kissinger’s demeanor in possible photographs
                -Haig
                    -Thieu’s reaction to settlement
                    -1972 election
                -Effect on 1972 election
                    -Haldeman’s view


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 57s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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        Forthcoming announcement on US – Soviet Union trade agreement

        Foreign policy
            -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
                -Importance of economics
                     -Secretary of State

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:00 am.

        The President's forthcoming meeting with foreign leaders

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:21 a.m.

        Economics
           -Lewis
               -Secretary of State

The President and Haldeman left at 10:21 am.