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Start Date: 17-Oct-1972 11:26 AM
End Date: 17-Oct-1972 12:10 PM
Participants:Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; White House operator; Boggs, Corrine (Clairborne) (Lindy); Bull, Stephen B.; Brown, Robert J.; Sayers, Gale E.; Jones, Paul R.; White House photographer;
Recording Device: Oval Office
On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, White House operator, Corrine ("Lindy") (Clairborne) Boggs, Stephen B. Bull, Robert J. Brown, Gale E. Sayers, Paul R. Jones, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:26 am to 12:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 801-016 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 801-16 Date: October 17, 1972 Time: 11:26 am - 12:10 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with John D. Ehrlichman. Airplane crash - [Thomas] Hale Boggs -Status as missing -Conditions in Alaska -Example of another airplane crash -Release of information -Possible White House control The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 11:30 am and 11:32 am. [Conversation No. 801-16A] [See Conversation No. 31-102; one item has been withdrawn] [End of telephone conversation] Boggs's airplane crash The President talked with the White House operator at 11:33 am. [Conversation No. 801-16B] [See Conversation No. 31-103] [End of telephone conversation] 30 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Congress -William J. Fulbright -The President's previous conversation with Frank E. Fitzsimmons The President talked with Corrine (Claiborne) (“Lindy”) Boggs between 11:33 am and 11:34 am. [Conversation No. 801-16C] [See Conversation No. 31-104] [End of telephone conversation] Congress -Possible rejection of the Administration’s spending limit by Senate -Public relations efforts by the Administration -Ronald L. Ziegler -Possible statement -Result in higher taxes -Use of term “AWOL” to describe Congress -Water bill -The President’s forthcoming veto -House of Representatives schedule -Quorum -William E. Timmons -Senate -Possible override The President’s possible radio address -Tax reform -William L. Safire’s view ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal returnable] [Duration: 3m 53s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ***************************************************************** 31 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Issues -Tax reform -Safire’s view -Polling results -The President’s forthcoming press conference -Chicago -Proposed legislation -Property tax relief -Timing -Effect of 1972 election -Possible Vietnam War settlement -Henry A. Kissinger -Effect on 1972 election -Benefits of possible stalemate -Polling results -Number of undecided voters -Tax reform -The President’s possible radio address -George P. Shultz -Parochial school aid -Charles W. Colson -Possible letter from the President -Court case in Pennsylvania -Comparison to Lemon v. Kurtzman -Solicitor General [Erwin N. Griswold] -Possible letter from the President -Frank L. Rizzo -Cardinal Terence Cooke -New York -Peter M. Flanigan -Colson -The President’s previous meeting with Cooke and Catholic lawyers -Tax reform -Lawyer for parochial schools -Radio speeches -Paternalism [Philosophy of Government] -Veterans -Raymond K. Price, Jr. -Urban affairs 32 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan -Price -Lee W. Huebner -“American Spirit” -Farmers Legislation -Social Security -Costs -Payroll taxes -Arthur S. Flemming -Colson -Flemming -Concerns of senior citizens -Possible pocket veto -Indian lands bill -Wendell Wyatt -State chairman of Oregon Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:34 am. Gale E. Sayers -Robert J. Brown -Support for the President -Forthcoming meeting with the President -National Advisory Council for Drug Abuse Prevention meeting Bull left at an unknown time before 11:54 am. Indian lands bill -Wyatt’s view -Oregon -Cost of bill -Editorial page reactions in Oregon -Possible signing ceremony -Wyatt -Mark O. Hatfield -Wayne L. Morse -Robert W. Packwood -Labor legislation -John R. Dellenback 33 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Legislation -Vetoes -Spending issue -Office of Management and Budget [OMB] analysis -Water bill -Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] appropriations bill -Social Security bill Brown, Sayers and Paul R. Jones entered at 11:54 am; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting. Introductions -Domestic council Ehrlichman left at 11:55 am. [Photograph session] -Oval Office -Flags of branches of military services Oval Office -Painting -Architecture -Potomac River -Design by Theodore Roosevelt -Presidential seal -Rug -Puerto Rico -Dwarf tree -People’s Republic of China [PRC] Sayers -Work with youth -Television [TV] -Youth -Need for role models Minority business programs -The Administration’s efforts -Automobile dealerships -Edward Davis 34 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) -Detroit -Increase in black-owned dealerships Presentation of gift by the President -Cuff links -Golf balls Sayers -Background -Kansas -Omaha, Nebraska -Chicago Bears -Effect on youth Blacks -Support for the President -Efforts of the Administration -Economic opportunities for blacks -Black ownership of businesses -Automobile dealerships -Food vendors -Example of the President’s father’s [Frank Nixon’s] career as a grocer -Example of Harlem -Preponderance of Jewish-owned businesses -Leon H. Sullivan -Shopping centers -Sayers's prospects to help blacks -Day care center -Chicago -Number of people on welfare -House Resolution [HR] 1 Football -The President’s viewing of October 16, 1972 football game -The President's efforts at Whittier College -Washington Redskins -George Preston Marshall -Composition of team -Whites, blacks -Jim Brown -The President’s previous conversation with Marshall 35 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) -The President’s viewing of Detroit Lions–Green Bay Packers game, October 16, 1972 -Composition of teams -Detroit Lions -Steve Owens -Heisman trophy winner -Altie Taylor -Mel Farr -Green Bay Packers -John Brockington -MacArthur Lane -Examples for minorities -Opportunity to field best possible team through racial diversity Baseball -World Series -Emphasis on players’ abilities rather than player’s race Race relations -Possible conflict between blacks and whites -Irish -Italians -Blacks -Need for upward mobility -Care for the poor -Food stamps -Need for upward mobility -Politics -Business -Law -Athletics Athletes -Support for the Administration -Cleveland Browns -Work with youth -Post-1972 election plans -Sayers’s view -Support for the President -Sammy Davis, Jr. -The President's speech in Atlanta, October 12, 1972 36 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Nov-03) Presentation of gifts -Sayers’s children -Tie clasps -Charm -Golf ball Sayers's retirement from professional football -Knee injury -Sayers’s activities -Retirees from professional football -The President’s instructions to Robert Brown -Possible study -Pensions -Sayers’s discussions with Alvin Ray (“Pete”) Rozelle -Washington Redskins Washington Redskins Sayers et al. left at 12:10 pm.